Renaming Southern bases....

[Salty]

What are your thoughts about many bases in the South being renamed:

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What's in a name? Well, everything.
with BG (Ret.) Ty Seidule, Professor Emeritus of History, West Point & Vice-Chair, DOD Naming Commission

When the Department of Defense decided to examine the renaming of its bases in 2020, it turned to Brigadier General (Ret.) Ty Seidule to vice-chair its Naming Commission. Not only is BG (Ret.) Seidule Professor Emeritus of History at West Point Academy, but also a southerner. He grew up in awe of Confederate General Robert E. Lee, but eventually had to reevaluate who should be honored as a hero. Hosts LTG (Ret.) Leslie. C. Smith and SMA (Ret.) Dan Dailey sit down with BG (Ret.) Seidule to discuss the process of renaming military bases, the importance of history, and give shout-outs to a number of heroes that more people should be aware of.

 

[JonC]

I hate it. The reason is now I have to learn new names.

I never knew who most being renamed were named after anyway.

But I have to admit renaming Ft. Gordon to Ft. Eisenhower makes sense....I just don't want to learn new names.

 

[Salty]

and Ft Hood --- is being named for a Latino - if that is the main reason - then that is a dumb reason.
Now Fort Benning, Ga. is being named after Gen Hal Moore. He was the Bn Cdr othe 1/7 Cav as portrayed in the movie We were Soldiers. At least he had some good GI time.

 

[Salty]

Pentagon unveils new names for 9 Confederate-named bases

 

[Marooncat79]

I went to Ft Benning

Moore is a true hero

he deserves it

still went to Benning

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

It's a move made by scared pansies.

I think they're renaming them because old Confederate staunch Christian men intimidate modern sissy men, especially those upper echelon officers in the military.

You know you're done something right with your life when the mere mention of your name and Christian morals causes the pagans to tremble with fear and want to erase your legacy.

 

[Salty]

The main reason for the change is " Army commission has recommended new names for nine military bases commemorating Confederate officer" Had nothing to do with them being Christian.
Here is a full article:

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

The main reason for the change is " Army commission has recommended new names for nine military bases commemorating Confederate officer" Had nothing to do with them being Christian.
Here is a full article:

It has everything to do with them being Christian. The entire "culture war", of which renaming forts and tearing down statues is a part of, is a divide caused by one side believing the Bible and one side that doesn't. It's two totally juxtaposed worldviews.

And renaming military bases after more "modern" and "sensible" people in order to erase Christian military officers is merely one skirmish in a nationwide battle between God's worldview and satan/Darwin/Humanisms worldview.

 

[Salty]

So, are you saying that those Generals, being CSA has nothing to do with the renaming?

 

[Scarlett O.]

It's a move made by scared pansies.

I think they're renaming them because old Confederate staunch Christian men intimidate modern sissy men, especially those upper echelon officers in the military.

You know you're done something right with your life when the mere mention of your name and Christian morals causes the pagans to tremble with fear and want to erase your legacy.

This may be the only time..........but I whole-heartedly and 100% agree with you.

Of course those men being Confederates also play a part. All things Southern still cause others to roll the eye and these men, in part, are completely misrepresented in their character.

It's like people above the Mason-Dixon never had any culpability in the war or in social injustices.

Changing these fort names is disingenuous at best.

 

[Salty]

This may be the only time..........but I whole-heartedly and 100% agree with you.

Of course those men being Confederates also play a part. All things Southern still cause others to roll the eye and these men, in part, are completely misrepresented in their character.

It's like people above the Mason-Dixon never had any culpability in the war or in social injustices.

Changing these fort names is disingenuous at best.

I learned so much about the South
AFTER, I moved to the South!

It is interesting that Yankees also owned slaves
and that many Southerners never owned a slave!

Was slavery one reason for the War of Southern Independence
Yes - but there were several other reasons for the War as well.

When people complain that Lee, and other leaders were traitors,
I like to remind them that Washington, Jefferson, and others were also traitors!

It is interesting that those names of Forts - never bothered anyone for well over 50 years.

 

[Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin]

So, are you saying that those Generals, being CSA has nothing to do with the renaming?

Them being members of the CSA is just the "casus belli", meaning it's the veneer under which the "woke" make war against them. The real cause though is their Christianity. Stonewall Jackson's Christianity caused him to break the law and run a Sunday-school, Bible-teaching and reading class to slaves for example. This is offensive to "wokeism" and IMO is an awesome example of "obeying God rather than man".

The war veneer for removing Lincoln statues is that he originally wanted to send all slaves to Liberia instead of keeping them in the U.S as citizens. The real reason for the hate against Lincoln is that his Christian masculinity and standing up for the oppressed is a show of strength that the woke do not wish to tolerate.

The war veneer against the founding fathers is that they owned slaves. The real cause is that they created documents stating that our rights come from The God. This is offensive to "wokeism" where their god is themselves.

The casus belli against the modern fathers standing against transgenderism is "intolerance". The real cause is masculine men, Christian or not, manfully standing in the breech and performing their God-given role is a danger to satan trying to subdue the world. These men are acting like salt, which offends satan.

This war doesn't just affect men, it affects women too. Women are under attack with the transgender movement and women's sports. They're under attack by pornography. They're under attack by modern Feminism (we can debate about older forms of Feminism, but we can call agree old Feminism did not want women baring all to any man who wants it), which tells young girls that their bodies are worthless and they should give their bodies away for free.

Satan always promises one thing when his real underlying reason is another and the renaming of these forts is just one little skirmish. IMO it's a small, less important skirmish, but it's important to be faithful in the small things and big things.