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Repentance: Easy Believism VS Hard Believism

George Antonios

George Antonios

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Both extremes are heresies. By God's grace, this study can be of some help if you deem fit to refer someone to it:

The keys here are:
1) how do you define repentance?
2) what age/dispensation are you quoting?

Let's hear it
 
HankD

HankD

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You are headed down a rabbit hole brother.

Why? Because only God sees the heart.
 
37818

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Salvation which is not a true gift is the heresy. There is so called "Easy Believism," a mere belief without the gospel truth. But the genuine easy believism is where salvation is a free gift. Matthew 11:28-30, "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. [URL='https://www.baptistboard.com/l30'] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."[/URL]
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HankD

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37818 said:
Salvation which is not a true gift is the heresy. There is so called "Easy Believism," a mere belief without the gospel truth. But the genuine easy believism is where salvation is a free gift. Matthew 11:28-30, "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
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I have often said that believing on Jesus Christ is one of the easiest things i know how to do.
 
kyredneck

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HankD said:
easy believism is subjective
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Subject it to scripture:

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but have not works? can that faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked and in lack of daily food,
16 and one of you say unto them, Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; and yet ye give them not the things needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it have not works, is dead in itself.
18 Yea, a man will say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith apart from thy works, and I by my works will show thee my faith.
19 Thou believest that God is one; thou doest well: the demons also believe, and shudder.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith apart from works is barren? Ja 2

Faith is more than just 'saying', faith acts.
 
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HankD

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kyredneck said:
Subject it to scripture:

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but have not works? can that faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked and in lack of daily food,
16 and one of you say unto them, Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; and yet ye give them not the things needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it have not works, is dead in itself.
18 Yea, a man will say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith apart from thy works, and I by my works will show thee my faith.
19 Thou believest that God is one; thou doest well: the demons also believe, and shudder.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith apart from works is barren? Ja 2

Faith is more than just 'saying', faith acts.
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scripture is not subjective "thy word is truth".
 
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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kyredneck said:
Subject it to scripture:

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but have not works? can that faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked and in lack of daily food,
16 and one of you say unto them, Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; and yet ye give them not the things needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it have not works, is dead in itself.
18 Yea, a man will say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith apart from thy works, and I by my works will show thee my faith.
19 Thou believest that God is one; thou doest well: the demons also believe, and shudder.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith apart from works is barren? Ja 2

Faith is more than just 'saying', faith acts.
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Is there a common first act?
 
HankD

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RighteousnessTemperance& said:
This needs to be fleshed out. I didn't catch where he suggested one man can see another's heart. Or are you saying no man can know even his own heart, whether he himself is easy believin' or not?
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OK YOU define "easy believism" then compare it to someone eases definition.
 
kyredneck

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kyredneck said:
Faith is more than just 'saying', faith acts.
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RighteousnessTemperance& said:
Is there a common first act?
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I've actually meditated a lot on that. IMO, the one thing all His children have in common is respect for their fellow man, i.e., the golden rule written upon their hearts.

I said 'faith acts', well that's actually misleading, or not clear. Faith and works both derive from the same source. Take for example the Good Samaritan:

33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he was moved with compassion, Lu 10

His actions were like a force of nature, from the heart, just as Paul describes:

13 for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified:
14 (for when Gentiles that have not the law do by nature the things of the law, these, not having the law, are the law unto themselves;
15 in that they show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness therewith, and their thoughts one with another accusing or else excusing them); Ro 2

To do 'by nature' the things of the law. Matthew 7:12
 
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