Report: Marijuana’s impact on Colorado

[Revmitchell]

Citing a government website ?

Please.

Ok, so I rephrase that. You are the only person I know who has smoked enough pot to fail a field sobriety road test designed for drunk drivers. Allegedly.

Soooooo....you do not want to hear anything that contradicts your view point so you make fun of it? Really?


Right now it is the only thing to meaure impairment. That road test does not determine the substance that has caused the impairment on that the driver is impaired. If the driver shows no impairment then there is not an issue.

The issue is not whether their is a substance in the drivers system. The issue is only whether or not the driver is impaired.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You haven't contradicted anything. You put up a government report. You said you failed a test. What part ? What couldn't you do ?


And no, I don't smoke pot. Yes, I think marijuana laws are expensive and ineffective.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I stand on what I said. Most people can smoke enough marijuana to be good and high, and skate through any sobriety test.

 

[TCassidy]

Bro Curtis is correct. As a former sheriff's deputy assigned to the traffic division it was my job (and my partners) to take impaired drivers off the street.

We arrested a lot of drunk drivers on the basis of their failing the field sobriety test.

However, those high on pot could pass the test with flying colors. The only way to know they were high was to check the movement of their eyes for strabismus and nystagmus.

I suppose it could be argued that both caused a slight degradation in their visual acuity, but that would be a stretch. The only way we could be sure was a urine or blood test.

 

[matt wade]

Don't smoke it now, but I have in my life. In fact I went to driver's ed high every day and passed both the simulation and the actual on road tests without any issue. My instructor actually commended me on my good driving .

 

[Use of Time]

This is another hilarious thread. Keep it up Mitch. Your worldview amuses me to no end. Anything else we should get hysterical about? What's next weeks topic?. Harry Potter book burning event?

 

[carpro]

Has any of you ever wondered why there is no way to tell if a person has smoked pot, or not ?

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Offer 'em a snack. They usually have the munchies. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Revmitchell]

You haven't contradicted anything. You put up a government report. You said you failed a test. What part ? What couldn't you do ?

I did not say I failed a test. The link I provided shows that marijuana does efffect cooridination and general motor skills. So yes it does contradict what you said.

And no, I don't smoke pot. Yes, I think marijuana laws are expensive and ineffective.

They may be but making bad arguments in order to rail on them is not helpful.

 

[Use of Time]

Legalize it, tax it and take away a huge chunk of business from the Mexican cartels. It's going to take some time to get this right but we really do need to free up resources wasted on trying to curb this largely insignificant recreational drug.

 

[InTheLight]

Legalize it, tax it and take away a huge chunk of business from the Mexican cartels. It's going to take some time to get this right but we really do need to free up resources wasted on trying to curb this largely insignificant recreational drug.

The Mexican cartels are not going to give up if pot is legalized. Their likely response will be to lower their price and undercut legal weed with their black market stuff.

 

[Use of Time]

The Mexican cartels are not going to give up if pot is legalized. Their likely response will be to lower their price and undercut legal weed with their black market stuff.

I'm aware of that being the case in the short term but I think getting it legally and easily in the US would have an impact on who would be willing to risk their safety in dealing with the Mexican cartels. We would definitely be taking away a large chunk of their market. Americans would pay the market value (whatever that ends up being) regardless in my opinion. That would be a marginal benefit to me anyway as I also suspect the cartels would switch to a harder type of drug.

 

[poncho]

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Offer 'em a snack. They usually have the munchies. :smilewinkgrin:

I was going to say look for empty Cheetos bags.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Most of the pot being smoked now is grown in hydroponic gardens, full of high tech equipment, in people's closets and private gardens. The Mexican cartels are more interested in cocaine & heroin. Their pot is a very low quality, while marijuana grown up here and in Canada is a very high quality.

 

[OnlyaSinner]

I'm aware of that being the case in the short term but I think getting it legally and easily in the US would have an impact on who would be willing to risk their safety in dealing with the Mexican cartels. We would definitely be taking away a large chunk of their market. Americans would pay the market value (whatever that ends up being) regardless in my opinion. That would be a marginal benefit to me anyway as I also suspect the cartels would switch to a harder type of drug.

If the US Gov't took away part of the cartels' market share, they would behave like any business and redirect efforts to things that would maintain their profit margin. Unless we're willing to legalize absolutely everything, including substances which are establsihed as being high-hazard, cartels et.al. will continue to operate wherever the competition is least and the profit most, or wherever legalization draws a line.

I've never used marijuana (other than 2nd-hand smoke, which was insufficient to have any effect) but a co-worker on forestry research fieldwork was a fairly frequent user - never on the job, which involved chainsaws. Thru a landowner-provided field assistant we were offered a joint one evening, which he accepted thankfully, and almost immediately exclaimed, "This is go-o-od [stuff]." It was obviously more potent than what he was used to. After we traveled back to our overnight lodgings, he said he was very glad I was driving, as his time sense was all mixed up, with perception that the pickup was crawling one minute, warp speed the next. Anecdotal for sure, but he had no reason to fib.

 

[Use of Time]

If the US Gov't took away part of the cartels' market share, they would behave like any business and redirect efforts to things that would maintain their profit margin. Unless we're willing to legalize absolutely everything, including substances which are establsihed as being high-hazard, cartels et.al. will continue to operate wherever the competition is least and the profit most, or wherever legalization draws a line.

I've never used marijuana (other than 2nd-hand smoke, which was insufficient to have any effect) but a co-worker on forestry research fieldwork was a fairly frequent user - never on the job, which involved chainsaws. Thru a landowner-provided field assistant we were offered a joint one evening, which he accepted thankfully, and almost immediately exclaimed, "This is go-o-od [stuff]." It was obviously more potent than what he was used to. After we traveled back to our overnight lodgings, he said he was very glad I was driving, as his time sense was all mixed up, with perception that the pickup was crawling one minute, warp speed the next. Anecdotal for sure, but he had no reason to fib.

Yep. Exactly.

 

[poncho]

If drugs were legalized the government would lose to much money, power and control.

The three things it covets most.