"Resurrection" Resurrected

[webdog]

No.


There is a difference between God becoming physical for a purpose and for the time needed, and for all eternity. I already quoted the passage that explained the purpose for the incarnation. Once the purpose was fulfilled the need for Christ to be in the flesh was no longer there.

Do you believe Christ evaporated, disintegrated or something else when He ascended? Were the angels pulling our leg when they stated He would return in like manner as He left?

 

[asterisktom]

Do you believe Christ evaporated, disintegrated or something else when He ascended? Were the angels pulling our leg when they stated He would return in like manner as He left?

"manner". There is the key word. Not "form", nor "substance".

Manner: A way of doing something or the way in which a thing is done or happens. (American Heritage Dictionary)

 

[revmwc]

"manner". There is the key word. Not "form", nor "substance".

Manner: A way of doing something or the way in which a thing is done or happens. (American Heritage Dictionary)

Matthew 17: 1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,

2And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.

3And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.

So was this in a spirit or a physical Transfigured Body, still in Human form but as it would be in heaven. Moses and Elijah had been dead for how many years and yet they could be recognized, how if it is just a spiritual body?

God's is immutable His plan has always been the same. God's plan for man's salvation included the Son taking on a human body and becoming the human sacrifice needed for man's salvation. It was a ressurected body and God accepted the human sacrifice of His Son. The Spirit of the Son rsiding in it for all eternity.

So what was it that transfigured His human body or did it turn spiritual? Did the Human Body leave Him? Is this a preview of the glorified body?

 

[revmwc]

"manner". There is the key word. Not "form", nor "substance".

Manner: A way of doing something or the way in which a thing is done or happens. (American Heritage Dictionary)

Then this:

Hebrews 9: 19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
23It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

How did Christ enter the into the Holy place in Heaven?

In spirit form or in human form? The Priest must came and poured the blood out on the mercy, Christ went into the Holiest place of purifying mankind once and forever. So too will he return for those of us who look for His return, but not just us but for all who believe on Him unto salvation.

So was He at that time in Spirit form or human form, did He represent God or did He represent man? If He represented man then would He not have been in human form to represent the humanity He became and died for?

 

[percho]

I would like to say in my post 17 I believe the body Jesus was raised in was the body buried for otherwise it would not be worded as neither did his flesh see corruption. The same body incorruptible.

 

[asterisktom]

I would like to say in my post 17 I believe the body Jesus was raised in was the body buried for otherwise it would not be worded as neither did his flesh see corruption. The same body incorruptible.

I agree with this.

 

[asterisktom]

Then this:

Hebrews 9: 19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
23It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

How did Christ enter the into the Holy place in Heaven?

In spirit form or in human form? The Priest must came and poured the blood out on the mercy, Christ went into the Holiest place of purifying mankind once and forever. So too will he return for those of us who look for His return, but not just us but for all who believe on Him unto salvation.

So was He at that time in Spirit form or human form, did He represent God or did He represent man? If He represented man then would He not have been in human form to represent the humanity He became and died for?

More verse-bombing in place of responding.

Manner, not form. Acts 1.

Sigh....

 

[revmwc]

More verse-bombing in place of responding.

Manner, not form. Acts 1.

Sigh....

I have responded with verses and explainations I ask for you comments on the verses to which you respond above.

 

[asterisktom]

I have responded with verses and explainations I ask for you comments on the verses to which you respond above.

No, you haven't. I wrote that the "manner" of Acts 1:11 describes an action (a verb). Deal with that and I will then answer your verses.

 

[revmwc]

No, you haven't. I wrote that the "manner" of Acts 1:11 describes an action (a verb). Deal with that and I will then answer your verses.

In like manner, by the same means he went out He will return. Just as He ascended so will he descend. In other words the same method and circumstances. Everything will be the same.

Strong's Number: 5158 tro/pov
Original Word Word Origin
tro/pov from the same as (5157)
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Tropos trop'-os
Parts of Speech TDNT
Noun Masculine None
Definition
a manner, way, fashion
as, even as, like as
manner of life, character, deportment

Translated Words
KJV (13) - as + (3739), 3; conversation, 1; even as + (2596 + (3739), 2; even as + (3739), 1; in like manner as + (3639), 1; manner, 1; means, 2; way, 2;
NAS (11) - character, 1; circumstance, 1; exactly, 1; just, 1; respect, 1; same way, 1; way, 5;

 

[percho]

Paul was born alive in the flesh but then the commandment came and killed him spiritually and he was regenerated born again in the spirit and then he died in the flesh.

Will he have to be made alive again and for what purpose? Would this last being made alive if need be have anything to do with the gospel of Christ?

How many physical and spiritual being made alive did/will he have?