Rev. 22:19 Book of life or Tree of life?

And once again you accuse those of us that use MV's of being ignorant or stubborn. I have asked the Lord for wisdom and I have listened to Him. And I have studied the issues and could no longer hang on to one version onlyism - especially after seeing the differences between the AV1611 and the already existing English Bible versions. Once again, you are wrong in your judgements of us.

 

Does anybody understand why
i explaine this on page one
and folks still argue on page 3?

May God have some real good blessings
left to put onto Sibling TC, their family,
and their ministry this very week-end. Amen!

 

Bro. Will, May I echo your sentiments and say I am in full agreement?

I believe if we who stand for the AV 1611 KJB simply and humbly bow out of this discussion, leaving these to themselves, it would only be a matter of time before they turned on one another until they completely devoured themselves.

Ever notice how quick to slash some one who claims the authority of God to preserve His Holy Bible in the KJB? They will make all sorts of allegations against that person, mark them as believing a false doctrine and accuse them of even hating the Word of God?

I have been marked for life by these people and hated as well. I love each and every one of them and all who are here just the same. I will even fight for their right to have any version they wish, but still I am hated by them for even doing that. They play this "o, so hurt" game and then turn and rend you as you cast your pearls before them. I have intentionally begun a couple of threads just to prove that they will bite and devour any and all who don't agree with them, that is truly sad. I'm just glad I got my leather underwear on so the bites are not so easily inflicted and remain unhurt by them.

I really do hate they choose to slide right on off into apostacy concerning the preservation of God's Holy Bible, but I cannot make them change, only I can warn them and try my best to reason with them the same.

I really appreciate your posts and all the time and effort it has taken to arrive with your valuable information,

Brother Ricky

Ephesians 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us.

 

Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour!

Will,

You quoted:

The KJV translators were just the imperfect tools in His hands that He used to accomplish His purpose of preserving His inerrant words.

Will K

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To this wondeful truth I say...AMEN!!!!!!!
Thank you Will, you proclaim the truth.

May the Lord richly bless you all.

love in Jesus Christ our Lord,
michelle

 

Thing is, Michelle, the AV translators were just ONE "tool" of the MANY used by God to preserve and pass on His word. Shame on the Onlyists for trying to LIMIT GOD.

 

Once again, an RC advocate of papal infallibility might use the same argument -- "You are focused on MAN, and not GOD. It isn't the infallibility of the pope per se I believe in. I believe in the truthfulness, faithfullness and infallibility of God Himself who promised to guide His Holy Catholic Church into all truth. The pope is just the imperfect tool in His hands that He uses to accomplish His purpose of guiding His Holy Catholic Church into all truth."

 

God speed.

HankD

 

Amen, Brother Robycop3 -- Preach it!

May all God's best blessings be unto
Brother Robycop3, his family, and his
minstiry this very Lord's Day. Amen!

 

Nah - we'd have some very interesting discussions about manuscripts, translation choices, and so on.

We will say that their belief in the KJV as being the only preserved Word of God is a doctrinal error as it goes outside of the Bible, but we would also say that to those who believe that the Book of Mormon is an inspired book. That, too, goes outside the realm of Scripture. What kind of allegations have been made to you as a person, specifically, besides us noting that you are, indeed, a KJVO?

I don't think anyone here hates you. Please don't be paranoid.

You're really not a martyr here.

Where does your doing that fit into the body of Christ? Chapter and verse, please.

Apostacy? That's really funny - it really is.

 

Mr "formerly known as qs" has a persecution complex.

 

God speed.

HankD </font>[/QUOTE]So Hank, you got scripture to support bidding one Godspeed to turn on one another and completely devour themselves?

Do I need to give you a chance to clarify yourself?

 

Funny thing that isn't happening though now is it?

Personally, I believe yall will say just about anything, but why haven't you recognized the two allegations I already stated?

We believe God can preserve His Word, yall are still guessing where that is, we know it is the AV 1611 KJB. Yall impose your allegations against the KJB and superimpose your opinions as authoritive in the matter.

If this is love then I don't want to know love: "You hate the Word of God because..." "You hate other versions", "You hold to a false doctrine" I never said you have to read the KJB, "You show me your authority to say I have to read the KJV and hold to KJVO as a doctrine" "You just don't want anyone to know what God has to say to them because you say they have to read the KJV".

When one makes these type of allegations it is NOT love, but disdain and hatred towards the one they accuse.

I would post nearly 20 more acts of "love", but I don't dwell in the realm of accusations meant to exert harm to one's person. You know I will poke and prod at yall to excite your reasoning, but i have never actually invoked hatred towards any of you, in fact let me say it again, I love everyone of you. You say I have a funny way of showing it. I say, Well at least I show it. You say, But it doesn't look like you love us I say, Well I still love yall anyway.... and the monkey chased the weasel!

I say fight and you act as if I am about to be martyred. I haven't conceded and lay my head on any choppingblock.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

If you wish to hold to others sliding off into apostacy as funny, go ahead, though I will advise against it.

 

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1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

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See, and that's what we're doing, exposing the fallacies of KJVO-ism.

I still maintain that if we didn't have to worry about KJVOs coming in and ruining discussions, we would have some great converstaions about different word choices used by different translation, as well as pretty neat discussions about manuscripts.

Apostacy isn't funny. Falst claims of apostacy because people use modern versions, that is funny.

As to your claims of:

I'd like to see where these things were saying. We did say that you hold a false doctrine in holding the KJV up as God's only preserved and perfect word in the English language. We're just living by I John 4:1, you know.

 

Apostacy? That's really funny - it really is. </font>[/QUOTE]"Funny" is not the right term.
All the laughing going on is because we
dare not cry. More like "sour grapes", people
whining because they cannot understand
how they lost the debate

My pastor was talking to the youth today
and asked which of "simile" or "metaphor"
has the "like" or "as" specifically.
He implied that most of us are to learn
it in the 5th grade English class.
The 40 or so youth in church said correctly:
"simile". To bad there are some who don't
yet know this 5th grader secret of
simile and metaphor. They are as a
brick submarine: sunk. (nice simile, eh )
Here is a similar metaphor:
To bad there are some who don't
yet know theis 5th grader secret of
simile and metaphor. They are a brick submarine: sunk.

May all God's best blessings be in store
for Brother ScottEmerson this week, for
his family and for his ministry. Amen!

 

Hey, thanks, Ed!

 

You're welcome Brother ScottEmerson.

May all God's best blessings be in store
for Brother ScottEmerson this Monday, for
his family and for his ministry. Amen!

 

See, and that's what we're doing, exposing the fallacies of KJVO-ism.

I still maintain that if we didn't have to worry about KJVOs coming in and ruining discussions, we would have some great converstaions about different word choices used by different translation, as well as pretty neat discussions about manuscripts.

Apostacy isn't funny. Falst claims of apostacy because people use modern versions, that is funny.

As to your claims of:

I'd like to see where these things were saying. We did say that you hold a false doctrine in holding the KJV up as God's only preserved and perfect word in the English language. We're just living by I John 4:1, you know. [/QUOTE]

As far as the quotes you'll just have to start searching, but as far as discussing what you'd like, I have yet to see where you have. The impression I get is you like to argue with what yall label as KJVO, if that is your preference, don't blame me for it.

When you discuss versions, try to understand the Bible and leave the KJB out of the vrsion discussion, unless you refrain from attacking the KJB, or we'll just interupt all over again. I see your just attempting another way of censure of what you cannot deal with.

Remember, there is no real thing as a love/hate relationship. As far as the Bible goes I have one master, as far as God goes I have One Master. I have no need to promote myself as I see you persistently trying, maybe you should really practice I John 4:1, instead of claiming you live by it.

Ed, what debate has anyone lost? You're not bringing your ridicule of your stepsister into the discussion again are you? Maybe you were just using a metaphor when you said she "finally" started speaking words with syllables, I doubt it though .

May the Lord bless you in your study and you eventually will come to the knowledge of the truth. That will be a glad day for you and the best blessing you 'll ever have other than when you got saved. I do hope oyu are truly blessed in your ministry, I have yet to see what that is, but I do hope that all the same.

 

Quecepts your supreme arrogance is exerting itself again! You are a false witness about his motives in mentioning his sister. Unless Ed says that he used his sister's "problem" by ridicule as you allege, you are simply bearing false witness, and you need deliverance from your PRIDE.