-
Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!
Revelation 2:6,15
- Thread starter kyredneck
- Start date
We don't know who they were. People have made educated and uneducated guesses. But the Bible doesn't spell out who they were.
Don’t know.
How did you come to that?
It's likely, based on what we read in Revelation 2, that the Nicolaitans taught cheap grace. Meaning, they taught that one could worship the gods of Rome, go to the pagan sacrifices, practice sexual immorality, and still worship Christ Jesus.
In some sense it could be like someone who teaches "Once Saved, Always Saved" and a changed lifestyle is not needed.
Paul may have addressed this cheap grace in Romans 6 when he asks the question "Shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound? God forbid."
It seems that the Nicolaitans were abusing grace and living a carnal lifestyle of compromise so that they wouldn't suffer persecution in Pergamum, the government seat for the local governor of Rome (the place where Satan has his throne).
*Revelation 2:13-15*
“‘I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. Yet you hold fast my name, and you did not deny my faith even in the days of Antipas my faithful witness, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. So also you have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans.
In some sense it could be like someone who teaches "Once Saved, Always Saved" and a changed lifestyle is not needed.
Paul may have addressed this cheap grace in Romans 6 when he asks the question "Shall we continue in sin so that grace may abound? God forbid."
It seems that the Nicolaitans were abusing grace and living a carnal lifestyle of compromise so that they wouldn't suffer persecution in Pergamum, the government seat for the local governor of Rome (the place where Satan has his throne).
*Revelation 2:13-15*
“‘I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. Yet you hold fast my name, and you did not deny my faith even in the days of Antipas my faithful witness, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells. But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality. So also you have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans.
37818
Well-Known Member
My first study Bible, "Revelation 2:6
Nicolaitanes
From nikao, "to conquer," and laos, "the people," or "laity." There is no ancient authority for a sect of the Nicolaitanes. If the word is symbolic it refers to the earliest form of the notion of a priestly order, or "clergy," which later divided an equal brotherhood Matthew 23:8 into "priests" and "laity." What in Ephesus was "deeds" Revelation 2:6 had become in Pergamos a "doctrine Revelation 2:15.
Nicolaitanes Revelation 2:15, contra, ; 1Pet 5:2; 1Pet 5:3; Matthew 24:49."
Alan Gross
Well-Known Member
EX-ACTLY!
IMHO.
This was the beginning stages of what developed into the Hierarchical structures in the government of 'churches', which God Hates.
Revelation 2:15; "So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate."
God the Father Placed Jesus as the Head of each of His Individual church assemblies, which are to be congregational and democratic.
Ephesians 1:22; "And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,"
One member = one vote.
The pastor = one vote.
Can the pastor, then, be 'voted down'?
Of course. It happens. On little insignificant junk, generally speaking, but yeah.
That's the way God Planned it.
Exactly, IMHO.
True that.
I was going to say something but everyone said what I was going to say... Only it's the LORD church... Not the preachers church, not the Deacons, not the congregations, but THE LORDS CHURCH!... Brother Glen
As stated in post #2, we can put Nicolaitans in a box, but we have no idea concerning the contents of the box.
First to the Church at Ephesus, Revelation 2:1-7, they were hated and God did not like them either. The church did not tolerate evil people and put the claims of people to the test, and found "them" to be false. From this I conclude they may have been false teachers with destructive heresies.
Second to the Church at Pergamum, Revelation 2:12-17, those holding the same teachings as the Nicolaitians should repent. From this I conclude at least some of Nicolaitians teachings were false and destructive.
First to the Church at Ephesus, Revelation 2:1-7, they were hated and God did not like them either. The church did not tolerate evil people and put the claims of people to the test, and found "them" to be false. From this I conclude they may have been false teachers with destructive heresies.
Second to the Church at Pergamum, Revelation 2:12-17, those holding the same teachings as the Nicolaitians should repent. From this I conclude at least some of Nicolaitians teachings were false and destructive.