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Revelation is not about the FUTURE

Blank

Active Member
Before I start to ignore you, which is is? Are the tribes LITERAL TRIBES in which case 12,000 from Reuben is all about fleshly ancestry (I am not of the blood tribe of Reuben) or is it NOT about fleshly ancestry (in which case Reuben means something other than literal Reuben)?
I think I answered that in post #118 on my 2nd point...
As a Baptist, yes, I would go quite literal in comparison to theologically liberal Reformed or Preterist.
In the meantime, I do believe God has not abandoned Israel, as seen in Rev 7, nor do I believe God has replaced Israel with the Church. (Now you can put me on 'ignore').
 

atpollard

Well-Known Member
I think I answered that in post #118 on my 2nd point...

In the meantime, I do believe God has not abandoned Israel, as seen in Rev 7, nor do I believe God has replaced Israel with the Church. (Now you can put me on 'ignore').
Have a nice day.
I’ll waste no more time attempting to get you to communicate.
(and I can ignore you without placing you in ignore)
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
We are Israel and look at all that has happened and how she has grown these last nearly 2,000 years...

Like wow. There was an approximate 275 million people on the entire earth during Jesus' ministry.

Now there's over 2 billion professing Christians alone! 1/4 of all the people on earth!

No, they aren't all saved, but still, just wow... Jesus Christ has changed the very face of the earth.

Today, we live in a type and shadow of our glorified future with Jesus standing as the tree of life, our bread of life . when we are glorified and are standing in the reality of all that God has prepared for us it will totally be amazing because this is amazing enough! More is so awesome...

In my understanding the physical nation doesn't have to be restored for all to have been fulfilled that has been written about them, but we never know what the Lord might do and we never stop hoping because Christ is our Hope and He already has the Victory!

God's amazing...
Since the coming of the Church at Pentecost, the Lord has been dealing with Spiritual Israel, but physical Israel not totally forgotten, as much of the Coming earthly Kingdom will revolve around them during Messianic Age
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
It's not a book promoting heresy. I wouldn't do that. Amillennialism has been the traditional position for the professing Protestant church orthodox. That is the position the book is taking and explaining.
Agree that is became the dominants position after Augustine and others, who pushed that the Church of Rome was that Kingdom upon Earth, but the position held before that seemed to a type of Historical premil
 

Blank

Active Member
It's not a book promoting heresy. I wouldn't do that. Amillennialism has been the traditional position for the professing Protestant church orthodox. That is the position the book is taking and explaining.
and Historical Premil has been the standard Church view a couple hundred years before Amil. I guess all eschatological views have their debut sometime. :Thumbsup
 
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