Correct, but Dr Mac makes it sound almost like sinless perfection!I don't mean we say He is our Lord and Savior, I mean He is our Lord and Savior regardless of the extent we realize it (if we are saved).
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Correct, but Dr Mac makes it sound almost like sinless perfection!I don't mean we say He is our Lord and Savior, I mean He is our Lord and Savior regardless of the extent we realize it (if we are saved).
Correct, but Dr Mac makes it sound almost like sinless perfection!
And now you are trying to derail the thread. Please go back and answer my post #91, and let's get the thread back on track.
I agree (except I am not offering to buy him the book).No he does not. Do you need or can you afford a copy of The Gospel according to Jesus? It's Christmas and I will buy you one if necessary.
Except that he also implies that we must have Jesus as Lord over all, or else not really Lord at all!I agree (except I am not offering to buy him the book).
MacArthur seems to teach that we strive towards sinlessness, but we don't attain perfection until glorification.
I have read that book, and justsugesting that in his zeal to have reall converts, tends to move towards legalism...No he does not. Do you need or can you afford a copy of The Gospel according to Jesus? It's Christmas and I will buy you one if necessary.
I don't think he means perfect obedience, but that when we disobey in that area of our life we are disobient to Christ as our Lord.Except that he also implies that we must have Jesus as Lord over all, or else not really Lord at all!
I gree wit you on tat, but still seems that he dos not seei Jesus as Lord by default, bu that its up to us to install Him as that?I don't think he means perfect obedience, but that when we disobey in that area of our life we are disobient to Christ as our Lord.
That I am not sure. I like MacArthur as a preacher but that's about the extent of it. When it comes to the Lordship debate there seems to be so many different definitions that I never gained much interest in the topic. I do believe that that the Bible presents Jesus as Lord and Savior (never one apart from the other).I gree wit you on tat, but still seems that he dos not seei Jesus as Lord by default, bu that its up to us to install Him as that?
"By your command"Okay, the thread's completely off track now. I've had my say. Mods, please close it.