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Ribera’s commentary on the book of Revelation

kyredneck

kyredneck

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David Lamb said:
No, nor am I likely to do so, as I followed your link and find that Francisco Ribera is a Jesuit.
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BaptistFP said:
It is meant to expose the false Jesuit teachings of dispensationalism.
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"...The Jesuit Francisco Ribera's Commentary on the Apocalypse of St. John introduced a new end-times interpretation of Revelation during the Counter-Reformation. This writing reveals itself to be the original source of Futurism, exposing Rome as the author of Dispensationalism...."
 
kyredneck

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asterisktom said:
I haven't read it, but it may be worth a look. As far as him being a Jesuit, that doesn't automatically discredit everything he might write. I am certainly not a futurist but I get a lot of helpful material from them.
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It's odd, I've had Dispys argue that Preterism is a Jesuit construct.
 
asterisktom

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kyredneck said:
It's odd, I've had Dispys argue that Preterism is a Jesuit construct.
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Years ago I did the same. Folks often lazily conjure up convenient bogeymen to simplify the opposition. Preterism has been cast as gnosticism and at other times as Jesuitry. But G and J are miles apart.

It always take extra effort to actually frame the opponent's belief. This is where Preterists have the advantage, because many of us have spent years in the system we now oppose.
 
John of Japan

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BaptistFP said:
It is meant to expose the false Jesuit teachings of dispensationalism.
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Dispensationalism is not a Jesuit teaching. This false claim has been debunked in various ways. I am away from my extensive library on the theology right now, or I would give particulars and quotes. I will say that I recently read a biography of J. N. Darby that did not mention Catholicism a single time.
kyredneck said:
"...The Jesuit Francisco Ribera's Commentary on the Apocalypse of St. John introduced a new end-times interpretation of Revelation during the Counter-Reformation. This writing reveals itself to be the original source of Futurism, exposing Rome as the author of Dispensationalism...."
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Actually, since almost all Christians were futurists in the first three centuries, it is a mistake to call some Jesuit book to be "the original source of Futurism." And there have been futurists outside of Rome for centuries.
BaptistFP said:
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices. 2 Corinthians 2:11
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Are you claiming that dispensational theology is Satanic? If so, you are attacking a huge percentage of evangelicals, in particular Baptists, of teaching Satanic doctrine. This includes me, since I teach Dispensational Theology in our Bible college, went to Japan for 33 years under a dispensational mission board, etc.

If dispensationalism is of Satan, how do you explain our church, which has a very active evangelism program, giving the Gospel to thousands in our area, and has sent out many missionaries around the world. We support many other missionaries we didn't train. There are currently five of my former students out on deputation to go to the Far East, Africa, and other fields. Our church has a full time missions pastor who has been to dozens of countries preaching Christ. Can your non-dispensational church match these efforts?
 
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