Rick Warren and the Ecumenical Movement

[Van]

Are not supposed to be in the world but not of the world. How do we reach Muslims for Christ if we cut off relationships. Did Jesus eat with sinners or advocate isolationism.

Only by sharing light with those in darkness can be carry the gospel to the ends of the earth.

 

[quantumfaith]

That you could read that and somehow get that he is wanting everyone to a part of a one world religion is bias to the 100th degree!

Religious freedom for all has historically been a core value for Baptists. It is not promoting a one world religion in order to come together and say everyone has the right to believe and practice whatever faith their conscience dictates. In fact not only is it NOT ecumenical, it's downright Baptist!

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

 

[Alive in Christ]

Why does it seem that this man is continuing to aid the devil in the bringing about of the One World Religion in which every "faith" is under the same umbrella and seen as equally viable?

I dont understand it either.

I dont in the least question his salvation or his sincerity, or his faith in Christ.

He just seems obsessed with accepting what God clearly says we should NOT accept.

Its just weird.

 

[go2church]

That you would read that and come away with me having said that's what he wants is bias to the 100th degree as I didn't say that's what he wanted. :laugh

He's aiding the devil because he thinks this ecumenical bring everybody together stuff.

Not an exact quote, but the gist nonetheless.

 

[go2church]

So, a Baptist policy should be embodied in the Constitution, and a Muslim policy, that of oppressing religious dissent, should not.

How is that compatible with with Baptist separation of church and state?

Policy isn't the right word, but I think I get what you're saying, maybe, but not really

Freedom of religion is in the constitution. Muslims may have a "policy" (again not sure if that's the right word) of oppressing religious dissent, though there are certainly Muslims that would embrace as strongly as me the freedom of the individual to worship as he or she sees fit.

I would oppose anyone, Baptist or Muslim, if they wanted to dictate how someone should worship.

 

[Zaac]

Are not supposed to be in the world but not of the world. How do we reach Muslims for Christ if we cut off relationships. Did Jesus eat with sinners or advocate isolationism.

Only by sharing light with those in darkness can be carry the gospel to the ends of the earth.

Who said anything about cutting off relations with Muslims? The primary purpose of being in relationships with unbelievers is to witness Christ to them just as Christ witnessed Himself to the sinners with whom He ate.

The relationship IS NOT to forge some sort of ecumenical understanding for religious freedoms.

SO we need to stop wasting time on the stuff God ain't told us to do, and do what He HAS commanded us to do.

 

[Van]

Who said anything about cutting off relations with Muslims? The primary purpose of being in relationships with unbelievers is to witness Christ to them just as Christ witnessed Himself to the sinners with whom He ate.

The relationship IS NOT to forge some sort of ecumenical understanding for religious freedoms.

SO we need to stop wasting time on the stuff God ain't told us to do, and do what He HAS commanded us to do.

Not to put too fine a point on it Zaac, but an ecumenical meeting is for the purpose of establishing relations. I do not know what kind of missionary training you have had, but establishing relations based on common values is a well know method of "overcoming the gates of Hades." Think of Paul incorporating the "unknown God" in his sermon. You find some common ground as an entry point for the gospel of Christ.

 

[MNJacob]

Paul?

Who is Paul? He isn't a Baptist, he can't post on this forum.

 

[Van]

I know may folks think of Paul as the prototype missionary, but us back seat Baptists quietly speak of him as the prototype Baptist missionary.

 

[Yeshua1]

Who said anything about cutting off relations with Muslims? The primary purpose of being in relationships with unbelievers is to witness Christ to them just as Christ witnessed Himself to the sinners with whom He ate.

The relationship IS NOT to forge some sort of ecumenical understanding for religious freedoms.

SO we need to stop wasting time on the stuff God ain't told us to do, and do what He HAS commanded us to do.

Think that it is ok to keep open dialog with other religious grouops, but NOT tothe point where Chriostians either accept them as being saved, or else as worshipping same God!

here in Detroit, bad example of this, as Muslims/jews/Christians come together, and the distinctions blurred, and almost like one big quasi religious group, with "same God"