My Church made RNM available to every member to download this program with out charge to them. I personally did this and it has been a blessing I certainly enjoyed Dr Robert Godfreys STUDY OF CHURCH HISTORY, 1st century through the 20th. I would be interested to hear your comments if you are familiar with this. They claim to have available 14,000 videos.
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My church made this available to membership a couple of years ago and I think it is a great service.
Discernment is always required (like in all of life), but there's a wealth of good content.
Sadly, I don't have much time to watch videos so I haven't taken advantage of it as much as I would like. I spend most of my Bible study time working through the scriptures myself, but this material makes a good supplement to personal study. It's also a good starting place for those who are new to the faith.
Thanks for bringing up this worthy service!
Discernment is always required (like in all of life), but there's a wealth of good content.
Sadly, I don't have much time to watch videos so I haven't taken advantage of it as much as I would like. I spend most of my Bible study time working through the scriptures myself, but this material makes a good supplement to personal study. It's also a good starting place for those who are new to the faith.
Thanks for bringing up this worthy service!
Very worthwhile!I think it's a huge mistake for Church's to buy this for their members. Lot of nonsense on RNM. Mark Driscoll, Evolutionist Tim Keller, nothing at all good on creationism, lots of Andy Stanley (almost all nonsense) lots of contemplative spirituality stuff by Peter Scazzero and others.
Francis Chan is also very popular in RNM, but even he causes concern for me after endorsing Mike Bickle of IHOP (holy laughter, jerking, etc.).
Yes, I suppose you'd find some good material as well, but no way I'm exposing new Christians to this stuff.
A possibly helpful article: Biblical Discipleship vs. RightNow Media
Francis Chan is also very popular in RNM, but even he causes concern for me after endorsing Mike Bickle of IHOP (holy laughter, jerking, etc.).
Yes, I suppose you'd find some good material as well, but no way I'm exposing new Christians to this stuff.
A possibly helpful article: Biblical Discipleship vs. RightNow Media
Lots of nonsense here and everywhere else. Discernment is always required.
It could be a great opportunity for them to figure out what they believe. Learning is not about hearing one viewpoint, but hearing multiple viewpoints and figuring out what is true.
If your church is doing its job, then new Christians can hear many points of view and be able to take their questions to others in the congregation and get a good perspective on what is true. In my experience, the churches that want to control what their members hear are usually afraid of having members think for themselves.
If what you are teaching is true, it will be confirmed as true in study and discipleship. One of the greatest growth experiences for me as a naive Christian, young in the faith, was to realize that some popular Christian leaders were absolutely wrong about some things and that I had the capacity to discern truth from error and set aside bad teaching. It really opened up discipleship for me and made me realize how important it was for me to "study to show myself approved" unto God.
Totally disagree, in fact I would argue this has been proven wrong again and again just by the current decline of the Church in America. The Church is slowly dying in America due to the very reasoning you exhibit above. "Hey, it's all good. If something calls itself Christian, let it in!"
Think about how unbiblical this approach is. God gave the Church shepherds to protect the flock. God warned of wolves in sheep's clothing. How can we harmonize that with "on just let it all in." I think modern immigration policies in Europe could serve as a great metaphor for this approach.
Currently youth are fleeing the Church in America at catastrophic rates. 1 in 3 to 4 of 5 are leaving depending on which surveys you believe. They're looking at the foundation and saying, "no thanks. We love our parents, but just can't buy what they're selling spiritually." There's no discernment in the Church anymore (generally, I know there are good discerning Churches).
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The church is weak in the US because churches are not teaching and preaching discipleship.
That is not my view and I think you know it. If you don't know that, you are in no shape to call out other people until you develop some comprehension skills.
Since that's not my view, I can't support that perspective. But I can point out that an individual can discern whether or not there is a wolf leading their flock to destruction by their leader's attitude toward other viewpoints. If church leadership is frightened of their charges hearing other viewpoints, you can be sure that something is horribly wrong in leadership.
Yes. Many churches don't teach their youth people how to discern truth. If they find out that what they have been told all their lives in church is false - or that their church doesn't have an answer for viewpoints that challenge them - they may easily walk away.
Speaking for myself, I rejected the belief system that I was raised in during my second semester in college because I realized that it didn't make sense. That opposing "facts" inside the church and "facts" outside the church could not be reconciled, so I needed to figure out what was true. If there is a God (or gods), then that truth would also be true in the world. Over the course of two years, I came to believe in Christ and started the path of discipleship, but ended up rejecting much of the cultural baggage of the church that raised me.
There's not much discernment in churches, I agree. But discernment starts with open conversations and a willingness to confront truth.
I've only commented on what you wrote and that is what you wrote.
RNM is right at the heart of the megachurch movement, which are run like large corporations. They have very effective models for growth, and boy do they grow! In the meantime, you would agree, the Church in America is shrinking, shrinking shrinking. Kids are fleeing because they don't see a good foundation, and they are correct.
The modern church accepts evolution. The modern church accepts phony signs and manifestations. The modern church accepts extreme political liberalism. And why not? All the cool pop christians leaders have no problem with these. They either embrace it themselves or pass it off as no big deal. In my humble opinion, this approach is killing the Church in America, just like it did the Church in Europe.
BTW, wanted to touch on this also, because I hear this a lot. Discipleship is only beneficial if it's steeped in truth. If truth and discernment aren't there, discipleship can be used to disseminate lies. If RNM contains a lot of foolishness, that foolishness with be spread to the Churches that embrace it. I realize there is good there, but the bad always spreads faster.
And it also legitimizing certain people that maybe shouldn't be. Tim Keller for instance, from what I understand, does preach some good things. But he is also one of the founding pastors for BioLogos who's mission is to help church accept the lie of evolution. That is a toxic poison that is killing the Church. But how does a Church warn about the lie of evolution while at the same time promoting Tim Keller? I think it's problematic and hurting the Church in the long run.