RIP RBG

[Calminian]

Four years ago, Justice Antonin Scalia passed away in Feb. 2016
This vacancy arose during Obama's final year as president, and shortly after Scalia's death was announced, Republican Senate leaders declared that because Scalia's seat had become vacant during an election year, the Senate would not even consider a nomination from the president. Senate Democrats criticized the move as being unprecedented and responded saying that there was sufficient time to vote on a nominee before the election
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Thus to be consistent - Trump should wait until after the election to nominate - assuming he wins re-election

Both sides agree, that if there is not an opposition president, they can confirm at any time, and both sides would. Do you really believe a democrat senate would not have confirmed Garland? In a heartbeat.

The basic rule is, the Senate has the choice to defer during an election year. That's it.

If dems ran the senate today, they would defer. If they ran the Senate during Obama's last term, they would have confirmed.

Trump knows this, and will do it if logistically possible.

TRUMP TO GOP: FILLING SUPREME COURT VACANCY AN OBLIGATION TO VOTERS

 

[canadyjd]

The repubs are making a very good argument that the dems are forcing their hand in this confirmation by promising to challenge the results if POT:S wins. That would have the court at possible 4/4 tie in any ruling which is unacceptable. I hope they stick to that argument.

peace to you

 

[Calminian]

I disagree. Consistent and fair has been thrown out the window. The Democrats have proved that since Trump took office.

If Trump can get another Justice in on the Court of his choice, He should do it. Republicans should do it. Forget about playing fair anymore.

Had the Democratic party been more civil and fair during Trumps first term, then yes, fair would be the way to go. Not anymore. The Democratic party is like a rabid animal today.

Quantrill

I would just add, there is nothing unfair about it. The Senate has a choice to defer during an election year. They are not mandated to defer, and the democrats would not defer if in this same position. They'd ram it through much faster, in fact.

 

[Calminian]

The repubs are making a very good argument that the dems are forcing their hand in this confirmation by promising to challenge the results if POT:S wins. That would have the court at possible 4/4 tie in any ruling which is unacceptable. I hope they stick to that argument.

peace to you

And Trump knows this. It's actually essential he gets a good justice in there.

 

[Scott Downey]

There is a strong cold war on between the 2 parties. Pelosi and Trump have not talked for 11 months, ever since she stomped out from the white house meeting. Plenty of bad things the democrats have said about Trump and republicans, enough that republicans know to act quick while they can and get it done. I have read 3 republican senators, Murkowski, Collins, Romney may not go along with a quick confirmation. If it is tied, the decision goes to Pence.

 

[Calminian]

Cruz: ‘We Risk a Constitutional Crisis’ if Ginsburg Successor Not Confirmed Before Election

Ted's right.

 

[Salty]

'We're going to fill it': Republicans ready for any Supreme Court vacancy

 

[Scott Downey]

Cruz is right, very important to have a 9 justice supreme court, the dems have already advised to not concede the election, so then the election result is to be determined by the supreme court possibly. What with all the mail in ballots fraud likely to happen, it could be a nightmare. Day after election, Trump could be the winner, then tons of faked mail in ballots show up all marked for Biden, trickling in for weeks. Similar already happened with the hanging chads fiasco in Bush versus Gore election, where supreme court finally ordered all Florida re-counting to be stopped and Bush won.

the voting systems some people design are ripe for punishment. Totally ridiculous.

 

[Quantrill]

I would just add, there is nothing unfair about it. The Senate has a choice to defer during an election year. They are not mandated to defer, and the democrats would not defer if in this same position. They'd ram it through much faster, in fact.

Thanks for that information. That sounds great. I hope they, the Republicans, got enough guts to do just that. Ram it through.

Quantrill

 

[Calminian]

Thanks for that information. That sounds great. I hope they, the Republicans, got enough guts to do just that. Ram it through.

Quantrill

I do too. I don't mind them being fair, I get nervous about them being nice.

 

[xlsdraw]

IMO, there isn't a single fundamentalist "Bible Believing" judge on the Supreme Court.

Adding another: Catholic, Jew, or Episcopalian is just continuation of the same.

This nation rejected God's council, the Word of God, long ago.

 

[Salty]

IMO, there isn't a single fundamentalist "Bible Believing" judge on the Supreme Court.

Adding another: Catholic, Jew, or Episcopalian is just continuation of the same.

This nation rejected God's council, the Word of God, long ago.

Interesting - I;m sure many libs are demanding that Ginsburg be replaced with a female - because they want to see at leas 4 women,
as they are about 50% of the population. So likewise, should Bible believing Christians, demand that one of their own have a place on the court.

 

[Calminian]

IMO, there isn't a single fundamentalist "Bible Believing" judge on the Supreme Court.

Adding another: Catholic, Jew, or Episcopalian is just continuation of the same.

This nation rejected God's council, the Word of God, long ago.

Identity politics. It's a loser. I never judge someone politically by their religious identity. That's how we got Jimmy Carter.

 

[carpro]

McConnell: Trump's Supreme Court nominee 'will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate'
Mitch McConnell says Trump will get a floor vote for his replacement Justice. And of course democrats will say that is a foul thing to do.

I hope Trump does get a floor vote. Because anyone a democrat would choose, will to me be anathema. Mainly because my value system is directly contradictory to theirs, which to me is evil.

As Obama famously told Republicans, "Elections have consequences. I won."

Back atcha.

 

[church mouse guy]

Cruz is right, very important to have a 9 justice supreme court, the dems have already advised to not concede the election, so then the election result is to be determined by the supreme court possibly. What with all the mail in ballots fraud likely to happen, it could be a nightmare. Day after election, Trump could be the winner, then tons of faked mail in ballots show up all marked for Biden, trickling in for weeks. Similar already happened with the hanging chads fiasco in Bush versus Gore election, where supreme court finally ordered all Florida re-counting to be stopped and Bush won.

the voting systems some people design are ripe for punishment. Totally ridiculous.

I would just add that the counting in Florida with the hanging chads and all was done in Miami Broward County, a Democrat stronghold and they could not come up with enough votes to change the statewide totals even if every disputed ballot went for the Democrats. Also, CBS called Florida for Gore before the polls in the panhandle had closed breaking a broadcast custom of not calling a state before all the polls had closed. Dick Cheney thought that another 10,000 votes would have shown up in the panhandle without the CBS false claim.

 

[Van]

Romney, Collins, Murkowski

If Mr. Trump wins, the lame duck Senate could confirm. But would those three still think the new Senate should confirm?

If Mr. Trump loses, pretty sure the lame duck Senate would be unable to confirm.

If the outcome is in dispute, and the SCOTUS is 4-4, thuggery may break out.

Popcorn anyone?

 

[Calminian]

Romney, Collins, Murkowski

If Mr. Trump wins, the lame duck Senate could confirm. But would those three still think the new Senate should confirm?

If Mr. Trump loses, pretty sure the lame duck Senate would be unable to confirm.

If the outcome is in dispute, and the SCOTUS is 4-4, thuggery may break out.

Popcorn anyone?

Even if we lose those you mentioned, we have Pence to break the tie. I wouldn't mind that at all.

I think Trump is all about warp speed on everything. Lame duck session is too late, IMO, especially with all the litigation that's going to take place after the election. I don't trust Roberts.

 

[Van]

Even if we lose those you mentioned, we have Pence to break the tie. I wouldn't mind that at all.

I think Trump is all about warp speed on everything. Lame duck session is too late, IMO, especially with all the litigation that's going to take place after the election. I don't trust Roberts.

I agree, but note the 4-4 reference, that is acknowledging our Chief Justice might vote with the 3 other liberals. If we could trust him, (5-3) there would be no need of another conservative to handle the possible election dispute.

 

[xlsdraw]

Identity politics. It's a loser. I never judge someone politically by their religious identity. That's how we got Jimmy Carter.[/QUOTE

Politics cannot withstand nor alter the Sovereignty of God. God has a perfect plan and He is executing it timely and perfectly. America has steadily been falling away into the classic Laodicean model for a very long time. Compromise and Religious Coexistence is the path that the world is on. Ezekiel's war will dispense with those conquest nations that refuse this path. The Antichrist will feast on this lukewarm world.

 

[Calminian]

I agree, but note the 4-4 reference, that is acknowledging our Chief Justice might vote with the 3 other liberals. If we could trust him, (5-3) there would be no need of another conservative to handle the possible election dispute.

I think he's a man with good judicial instincts, but hindered by TDS.