Rise of Calvinism pt.2

For what, that God has wrath towards sins and sinners? John 3:18!

 

Ah yes, classic attacks with no basis in reality of anything that has to do with the doctrine itself.

 

If we want to go that route, how about all of those financial and sexual sins done by ole free willers Charismatics leaders past several decades?

 

Mine states that those not in Christ already stand condemned and judged, wrath of go upon them!
meant John 3:18!

 

I also don't think church growth has any sort of barometer on the matter either. Not to mention, you would have to get a much larger sample size over a much broader range of area. I'm telling you, this is not something that is quantifiable. This is also why I HAVE NOT ARGUED that it is increasing. Not sure why you keep projecting that on me.

I don't know whether it is increasing or decreasing or staying the same and neither does Barna and their decade old research that you misleadingly presented as if it were 2019 research (which you still have yet to retract and instead made excuses for).

 

same thing you were doing....

 

You seemed to be saying due to those people falling into sin, that means theology was suspect!

 

Of course this is a false statement. I HAVE been discussing the topic. But I see you are back to your old ways, noted.

 

I think we don't know.

The data you provided shows nothing and is faulty in their method and reasoning. This is not something quantifiable in my opinion. That being said, the data you showed is also a decade old and has no bearing on today.

 

Here's the better question, does the amount of followers even matter? Does the amount of people following a teaching determine the validity of that teaching?

 

My question would actually be to both sides of that debate.