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Roberts donated time to 'gay rights' activists

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by JGrubbs, Aug 4, 2005.

  1. church mouse guy

    church mouse guy Well-Known Member
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    Oh, I did not know that Ireland was that bad. Sounds as if it is going the way of Spain.
     
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    Can't fault you for not knowing - your statement was true when I arrived here ten years ago.

    On a personal note, and then we can return to topic. Missionaries tend to take offence when someone from the "outside" makes comments such as you made about their field of service. Just something to file for future reference.

    Now, back to our regularly sceduled programme ;) .
     
  3. church mouse guy

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    OK, I am not going to say anything bad about where you work anymore. It sounds a lot like downtown Indianapolis--liberal, socialistic, materialistic, immoral and with rampant homosexuality.
     
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    Probably true. I, however, would not be among them, and I'd probably get called lots of names like "liberal", "compromiser", and "easy-believist". I anticipate that, if a democrat wins the next election (a statistical likelihood", that this is exactly what will be happenning. I'll probably have to leave the bard then.
     
  5. KenH

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    cmg,

    I think that over the past year and a half that you have accused the Constitution Party of being responsible for just about everything except for toenail fungus(perhaps I missed a post when you did that).

    Just a suggestion - you really ought to find another hobby horse to ride, one where you don't willy-nilly attack folks that care about having constitutional government at the federal level.
     
  6. Johnv

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    I'm sorry Ken, but you need to accept the fact that tonail fungus was a Constition Party conspiracy.

    Seriously, your criticism is well noted. I'm no fan of the CP myself, but I do agree that some of the comments I see about them are a bit out there.
     
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    Yes, the same thing could be said. In fact, it has been said time and time again. However, when you look into the personal life of Judge Roberts and his family, it is easy to see that he does support overturning Roe.
     
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    CMG clearly has a problem with Catholic justices serving on the court. So, I just thought I would note that one of the strongest voices for Conservatives on this Court (or any court in my memory) is, in fact, a Catholic.
     
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    For those interested, here is the case that Roberts did research for.

    Colorado city ordinances banned discrimination based on sexual orientation.

    Colorado Supreme Court passed Amendment 2 preventing homosexuals, lesbians and bisexuals from being considered a minority group with any protected status.

    The SCOTUS ruled in favour of Romer (Robert's side) saying that Colorado's Amendment 2 is a violation of Constitutional Fourteenth Amendment where no person shall be denied equal protection.
     
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    From The Denver Post:

    http://www.denverpost.com/frontpage/ci_2914822

    Excerpt:
     
  11. church mouse guy

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    Just as soon as they dump their 2004 platform and Peroutka recants his mistakes, Ken.
     
  12. church mouse guy

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    I think that the Catholic religion is weak and produces weak legal thinking. American jurisprudence is based upon English common law and is the best jurisprudence in the world. This was done without any help from Catholicism. Bush is playing politics and trying to attract more Catholics to vote Republican. Good luck.
     
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    Just as soon as they dump their 2004 platform and Peroutka recants his mistakes, Ken. </font>[/QUOTE]I don't think they will be dumping the platform, and I don't know of any mistakes Peroutka has made that he should recant, so I guess you will have to continue in your hatefest of the Constitution Party.
     
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    There you go again with the hate stuff. It is properly fear and it stems from the fact that you have called the war in Iraq illegal and called for our immediate withdrawal from Iraq, not to mention your opposition to CAFTA and aid to Colombia. Bush is entertaining President Alvaro Uribe of Colombia in Crawford this weekend. I think that 11 police were blown up this week in the war against insurgents in Colombia and that country cannot survive without our help. The CP is getting a pass to gouge the GOP on this board and I am the only one standing up to the CP and reminding folks of the record of the CP, which is to end the war on terrorism without victory.
     
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    There you go again stating half-truths, the CP has never said anyting about not fighting against terrorism, they are just one of the many groups who were against invading Iraq. They do support actually doing something to defend us from the terrorist, unlike our current President who leaves the borders wide open for them to enter our country.

    The CP are also one of the many groups opposed to CAFTA, even many of the GOP House members who voted for CAFTA actually spoke out against it before the night of the vote.

    Jeff is a conservative Republican representing the First Congressional District of Florida. Before his initial election to Congress, he forthrightly articulated his opposition to NAFTA and similar trade deals. He said, "NAFTA itself may be the death-knell of American agriculture."

    In a letter to a constituent dated June 1, 2005, Congressman Miller said, "I do not believe CAFTA is good for Florida." He further said, "CAFTA is an outsourcing agreement."

    Miller went on to say, "CAFTA will be a market for 'turnaround' exports-products shipped south for assembly and then final sale in the U.S.- particularly textiles and semiconductors. Fabric will be sent to the region, stitched into final apparel and home furnishing products, and shipped right back to the United States. That's not traditional job-creating exports at all. Rather than servicing new foreign markets, these 'exports' serve the same domestic market U.S.-based factories once supplied. The only difference: American workers are removed from the equation. Due to Central American turnaround trade that currently exists, the U.S. trade deficit with CAFTA-6 countries rose nearly 60 percent from 1997-2004."

    Congressman Miller then said, "Still further, at a time when the U.S. is rapidly outsourcing both its service and manufacturing jobs, CAFTA will make it illegal for any state or federal agency to adopt a 'Buy American' policy."

    Sounds pretty convincing, doesn't it? It should. Everything Miller said is true. But guess what? In spite of everything he said, Jeff Miller voted for CAFTA!

    Try to keep your facts straight!
     
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    CAFTA passed anyway.

    The Constitution Party platform is against the war in Iraq, which it calls illegal. Peroutka himself wrote on his website, ....If elected President, however, I would move immediately to end our involvement in Iraq. I am not one who believes that when you are in a hole you should not be in, you should keep digging.... For God, Family and the Republic, Michael A. Peroutka
     
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    I'll tell you what, cmg. Please follow this link - www.constitution-party.net/party_platform.php - and actually read the Constitution Party platform and tell us plank by plank what you disagree with and what you might even agree with.
     
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    That is absolutely sickening! :(
     
  19. church mouse guy

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    It is their war policy that I fear. Because of the war, I think that it is the overwhelmingly important issue. Bush is a politically weak President as is evidenced by nomination of the obsecure Roberts for the court. Whatever political power that Bush has is expended daily in trying to win the war in Iraq. Today he is meeting with President Alvaro Uribe of Colombia trying to keep that government stable against their domestic enemies with President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela waiting on the sidelines and border of Colombia to take Casto's place and become the number one Latin American problem.
     
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    As long as we don't send any foreign aid but only military aid(if there is a threat to the United States) to Colombia President Bush can meet with Mr. Uribe all he wants.
     
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