Robin Hood in Reverse

[Crabtownboy]

 

[InTheLight]

Right now all you've got is an exercise in question begging. Please explain how this so-called wealth transfer is taking place.

 

[OldRegular]

And that wealth gap has increased drastically under Obamma. Strange that democrats are called the party of the middle class when they are really the party of the Wall Street Bankers and the wealthy Jews who bankroll the democrat party.

 

[Revmitchell]

There are a lot of wealthy people of all races who fund democrat causes. Why single out Jews?

 

[OldRegular]

There are a lot of wealthy people of all races who fund democrat causes. Why single out Jews?

From http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...c-despite-obama-s-rocky-ties-with-israel.html

Jews Won’t Fail Obama

Republicans hope to pry Jewish votes from the president in 2012. Dream on. Zev Chafets on why even Obama’s chilly relationship with Israel won’t deter this bedrock Democratic constituency’s loyalty.
On Thursday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced that the United States is opening a dialogue with the Muslim Brotherhood. This news coincided with a spate of media speculation about a possible decline in Jewish support for President Obama in 2012.

Such speculation precedes every national election, but this time the Republican case against Obama seems, at first glance, unusually promising. The president is on chilly terms with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Obama is committed to a negotiating stance that moves America from the barely qualified support for Israel of the Clinton and Bush administrations to something closer to diplomatic neutrality. And Obama’s web of friendships and connections to figures like Jeremiah Wright, Rashid Khaladi, Bill Ayers, and other harsh critics of Israel are well known. Despite this, in 2008, Obama got 77 percent of the Jewish vote—more than any ethnic bloc except African-Americans. But his Israel problem will cost him votes and donors, right?

Wrong. No Republican presidential candidate since 1924, no matter how pro-Israel, has won more than 40 percent of the Jewish vote. Usually it is closer to 20 percent. Barack Obama is not going to break that record.

Jews are less than 2 percent of the American population, but they are major players in the Democratic Party. Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the chairwoman of the national committee. Steve Israel heads the House reelection committee. The party’s intelligentsia and pundit class have a higher bar mitzvah quotient than the average B’nai Brith bowling team. Three of the four Supreme Court justices appointed by Democratic presidents are Jews. So are a quarter of the members of the Democratic Senate Caucus and 45 congressmen (all but one, Eric Cantor, are Democrats).

The Washington Post has estimated that Jews provide 60 percent of the party’s major individual contributions. The actual stat, according to a Democratic insider privy to unreleased research, puts the figure closer to 80 percent. In 2004, when so-called 527 organizations provided the biggest contributions, four Democratic donors—George Soros, Peter Lewis, Steven Bing, and the Sandler family—coughed up $73 million, more than the next 20 contributors, Republican and Democratic, combined. Jews are not simply supporters of the Democratic Party. They are stakeholders.

Like all stakeholders, Jews—and their interests—are taken seriously. Some are professional: academia, the entertainment industry (which depends on a good U.S. image abroad for much of its income), the high-tech sector, the legal establishment, financial institutions, teachers' unions, and liberal NGOs are all disproportionately run and staffed by Jews.

So is the party’s activist base. Perhaps the most salient Jewish voting issue is the protection of abortion rights, which is supported by close to 90 percent of all Jewish women. In other words, American Jewish support for the Democratic Party is not a decision made by a Sanhedrin in some imaginary bunker in Boca Raton. The Democratic Party is the emotional home of most Jews. The Reform Movement, America’s largest Jewish denomination, has been called “the Democratic Party with holidays." Many of the secular Jewish national organizations are simply cogs in the party machine.

From:http://houraney.com/2012/11/01/the-jews-brilliant-stupid-or-both/

The Jews: Brilliant, Stupid or Both?

Here's some thoughts from Michael Masters that explains the very puzzling political persuasion of most American Jews.

…In the USA, Jews contribute 25% of all the money received by Democrats and contribute almost none to Republicans, 80% of Jews vote for liberals (that percent is only surpassed by Blacks who vote more than 90% for liberals), Jews have the biggest influence on the media and entertainment, and Jews control the banks and Wall Street.

Jews are the linking pin to the influence of liberals in the USA by donating the largest share of dollars to liberals and by implementing liberal media/entertainment bias.

So if the rest of Americans can get Jews to understand the harm that they are doing to our country and to themselves by financing Democrats and skewing information from news/entertainment, then maybe they will stop sending so much money to Democrats and stop painting an untrue picture about conservatives vs. liberals in media/entertainment. Then some real progress can be made at reducing the power of people like Obama, Pelosi, the Clintons, Reid, Schumer, Dodd, Frank, Levin, and Soros.

In his book "Why Are Jews Liberals?" Norman Podhoretz, also a Jew, makes this comment: "I could only interpret by the way that they (Jews) voted in 2008 to mean that their commitment to liberalism, and to the Democrat Party as its principle political vehicle, was still so deep and so powerful that anything threatening to shake it would be fended off with willful blindness and rationalization built on denial."

Some Jews are Jews without practicing Judaism or believing in God. A Jew does not have to practice the Jewish religion to be a Jew because a Jew is not limited to a religion, or a place of origin, or a race in order to be a Jew. Being Jewish is simply belonging to the Jewish tribe of lineage back to David and the 12 tribes. Those 12 tribes made lots of mistakes in the last 5,000 years. They wondered around the desert for 40 years. They chose Barabas to be set free and asked the Romans to kill Jesus. And they continue to make lots of mistakes today with support for abortions, for promoting a low birth rate for Caucasians, for redistribution of wealth, for reducing military strength, for advocating more government spending, for promotion of social justice and political correctness, for advocating more immigration, and for imposing a secular society.

Yes, Einstein, Bernstein, Bernanke, and all those Jewish Nobel Prize winners are smart guys about technical stuff … but as a group, Jews are dumb about lots of practical things … like when they voted for Hitler in 1932 and when they voted for Obama in 2008 because they both promised socialism and secularism. All those Jewish doctors, scientists, bankers, accountants, and lawyers are technically smart about their professions … but real dumb about practical things.

Marx, another Jew, was wrong. Socialism and secularism do not work.

Let me ask you: how can Jews keep financing the Democrat party when that party opposes drilling for more oil, digging for more coal, and building more nuclear sites…. especially since those activities will decrease the $700 billion per year sent to Muslim countries that want to kill Jews and since those activities will help fix the national debt that enslaves the USA?

It is simple. To Jews, the Republican party represents Christians, especially evangelists … and Jews fear/envy/loath Christians, especially evangelists, more than they fear Muslims in the Middle East or fear enslavement through debt … even though those Christians saved the Jews from extinction in WWII and support Israel today. Therefore, Jews support Democrats, socialists, and people like Hitler, Chavez, Obama, and Hillary Clinton against their own best interests.

Look at the support given by Democrats, especially Hillary and Obama, to the new governments in Egypt, Libya, and Syria who have sworn to terminate all Jews in the world. So why do Jews support these Democrats who support their enemies?

Jews do dumb things. Jews have too much pride to say they made a mistake. They prefer to wonder around for 40 years than to ask for directions.

It is not all Jews … 20% are conservative. But the remaining 80% of Jews who are liberals are killing themselves and helping liberal politicians destroy our country. Liberal Jews (80% of all Jews) provide the financial and media/entertainment strength to liberal politicians who support their enemies and America’s enemies.

 

[InTheLight]

I'd still like to know the mechanism for the so-called wealth transfer. Assuming it's happening, how is is accomplished?

 

[PreachTony]

Look at his statement:

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"The fact of the matter is that, over the past 40 years, we have witnessed an enormous transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top one percent. In other words, we are witnessing the Robin Hood principle in reverse. We are taking from the poor and working families of American and giving to the very rich."

Note that Mr. Sanders hits all the classic buzzwords. If not in this quote (which I cannot find anywhere else online), then in a speech on the House floor where he used the famous "millionaires and billionaires" phrase. He uses standard politicianese vagaries like "enormous transfer of wealth." Okay, how enormous?

First, who is taking from the poor and giving to the rich?
Second, How are they taking from the poor and giving to the rich?
Third, How much has been taken?
Fourth, How do you propose we get it back?

We can talk about the "wealth gap" all we want to, but the standard political answer has always been to use the police power of the federal government to confiscate the earned income of one person for the express purpose of simply giving it to another.

 

[padredurand]

I'd still like to know the mechanism for the so-called wealth transfer. Assuming it's happening, how is is accomplished?

Just look around you ITL. Rich people are breaking into the homes of poor people and stealing mason jars full of loose change. They are stealing EBT cards and bags full of deposit bottles off the back porch.

 

[Alcott]

If WE are taking from the poor and working class families of America and giving it to the rich, then why is Sanders doing such? And why are you doing it, boy?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Just look around you ITL. Rich people are breaking into the homes of poor people and stealing mason jars full of loose change. They are stealing EBT cards and bags full of deposit bottles off the back porch.

Hey….I had a computer here yesterday…..

 

[Revmitchell]

I see more anti semitism

 

[padredurand]

Hey….I had a computer here yesterday…..

Back in the day we had old newspaper and a pencil stub. And we liked it. :wavey:

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Heh. SOME of us liked it.

 

[OldRegular]

I'd still like to know the mechanism for the so-called wealth transfer. Assuming it's happening, how is is accomplished?

The wealth transfer is the result of the policies of the Federal Reserve keeping interest rates very low. Thus the stock market is the only place where people can make money and that is why the rich are getting richer, the middle class is getting poorer, and the poor live off both. I believe 8 million have been added to the disability rolls under Obama and i8 million have been added to the food stamp giveaway!

 

[carpro]

I'd still like to know the mechanism for the so-called wealth transfer. Assuming it's happening, how is is accomplished?

You don't really expect an answer from ctb, do you?

It's just another of his dumb unsupported statements straight down the party line. The socialist party this time.

 

[carpro]

and the poor live off both.

That's not the assertion made in the OP. CBT says the rich are taking from the poor.

ITL, I believe, wants to know how that is being done??????

 

[OldRegular]

I see more anti semitism

Mitch if you are directing that at me that is a blatant lie. My Savior was a Jew!

Anyone with half a brain knows that the Jews in this country are extremely liberal and bankroll the democrat party.