Dr. Walter
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Romans 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
The alert observer can readily see that the following phrases found in Romans 3:19-20 are synonomous:
1. "the law"
2. "under the law"
3. "by the deeds of the law"
4. "by the law"
There are those on this forum who believe these references to the Law refer to the non-canonical traditions and so this text should read as follows:
Romans 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the traditions saith, it saith to them who are under the traditions: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the traditions there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the traditions is the knowledge of sin.
It should be easy to see this veiw is utterly rediculous as it makes the non-canonical uninspired traditions the definer of what sin is! Furthermore, it asserts that the non-canonical uninspired traditions have a universal application in regard to condemning sin world wide before God - "all the world may become guilty."
There are others on this forum that believe this verse applies only to the Judaism and the Mosaic law in the sense of Jewish representation of humanity before God. Hence, they would read it as follows:
Romans 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the Mosaic law saith, it saith to them who are under the Mosaic law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the Mosaic law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the Mosaic law is the knowledge of sin.
There is an element of truth in this position as the Mosaic law is the most comprehensive law ever given to men by God. However, the error of this positionis that this text says nothing about the "JEWISH PEOPLE" being representative of the world, but rather it is the Jewish LAW that is representative of all laws given by God. Therefore it does comprehend all other divine revelation of God's righteousness. Jesus summarized this entire law as follows:
Mt. 7:12 ¶ Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
In this very epistle to the Romans Paul summarized the entire Mosaic Law as follows:
Rom. 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
The very same Author of the Mosaic law is the very same Author who has written the law upon the conscience of men Jew or Gentile as Paul in this very same epistle writes:
Rom. 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
The law written upon the conscience of the Gentile is the basis for God to judge the Gentiles for sin (Rom. 2:12) as there is no sin where there is no law and the Gentiles have sinned without the Jewish law and therefore they will perish without the Jewish law by the law they have violated which has been written upon their conscience by God.
Rom. 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;....14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Romans 3:19-20 supports this conclusion and thus the INCLUSION of God's law written on the conscience because the text applies this BEYOND THE JEWS to all the world, to every mouth so that no flesh is omitted by its condemnation. Thus it should be understood as though it read
Romans 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law of God saith, it saith to them who are under the law of God: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law of God there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law of God is the knowledge of sin.
To those who might object to the prepositional phrase "of God" being added then the immediate context which follows proves this added insertion is the intended design of Paul as he goes on to say:
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Paul plainly states that the law which he was previously speaking about gives witness to "the righteousness OF GOD." However, verse 21 is designed to deny that the righteousness of God manifested in "the law and the prophets" is restricted only to "the law" but is now revealed in the person of Jesus Christ (v. 22). The righteousness of God is not revealed in the non-canonical traditions of the Jews but rather Jesus says those traditions transgress the commandments of God.
In conclusion, the preceding context demands that both the law written upon the conscience of the Gentile is comprehended in the law given by God to the Jews as verses 19-20 is simply the contextual conclusion of verses 9-18 that is inclusive of both Gentiles and Jews and their violation of God's law whether written upon conscience or in stone or upon other materials:
Rom. 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
CONCLUSION: Paul is concluding that there is "NONE, no, NOT ONE" Gentile or Jew who has not violated God's law, whether written upon their conscience or given by special revelation. Therefore, there is "NONE, no, NOT ONE" who can be justified by "WORKS' or "DEEDS" that try to KEEP THE LAW as they have already violated it, sinned, and under its curse:
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;.........for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
That is precisely why "ALL" both Jew and Gentile need salvation through the provision of God by Jesus Christ and there is no justification the law of works - good deeds - as the law has already been violated, they are already under wrath of that law and there is no other way of salvaiton but through faith IN Christ's satisfaction of the Law's wrath and righteousness.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
The alert observer can readily see that the following phrases found in Romans 3:19-20 are synonomous:
1. "the law"
2. "under the law"
3. "by the deeds of the law"
4. "by the law"
There are those on this forum who believe these references to the Law refer to the non-canonical traditions and so this text should read as follows:
Romans 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the traditions saith, it saith to them who are under the traditions: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the traditions there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the traditions is the knowledge of sin.
It should be easy to see this veiw is utterly rediculous as it makes the non-canonical uninspired traditions the definer of what sin is! Furthermore, it asserts that the non-canonical uninspired traditions have a universal application in regard to condemning sin world wide before God - "all the world may become guilty."
There are others on this forum that believe this verse applies only to the Judaism and the Mosaic law in the sense of Jewish representation of humanity before God. Hence, they would read it as follows:
Romans 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the Mosaic law saith, it saith to them who are under the Mosaic law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the Mosaic law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the Mosaic law is the knowledge of sin.
There is an element of truth in this position as the Mosaic law is the most comprehensive law ever given to men by God. However, the error of this positionis that this text says nothing about the "JEWISH PEOPLE" being representative of the world, but rather it is the Jewish LAW that is representative of all laws given by God. Therefore it does comprehend all other divine revelation of God's righteousness. Jesus summarized this entire law as follows:
Mt. 7:12 ¶ Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
In this very epistle to the Romans Paul summarized the entire Mosaic Law as follows:
Rom. 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
The very same Author of the Mosaic law is the very same Author who has written the law upon the conscience of men Jew or Gentile as Paul in this very same epistle writes:
Rom. 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
The law written upon the conscience of the Gentile is the basis for God to judge the Gentiles for sin (Rom. 2:12) as there is no sin where there is no law and the Gentiles have sinned without the Jewish law and therefore they will perish without the Jewish law by the law they have violated which has been written upon their conscience by God.
Rom. 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;....14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Romans 3:19-20 supports this conclusion and thus the INCLUSION of God's law written on the conscience because the text applies this BEYOND THE JEWS to all the world, to every mouth so that no flesh is omitted by its condemnation. Thus it should be understood as though it read
Romans 3:19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law of God saith, it saith to them who are under the law of God: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law of God there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law of God is the knowledge of sin.
To those who might object to the prepositional phrase "of God" being added then the immediate context which follows proves this added insertion is the intended design of Paul as he goes on to say:
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Paul plainly states that the law which he was previously speaking about gives witness to "the righteousness OF GOD." However, verse 21 is designed to deny that the righteousness of God manifested in "the law and the prophets" is restricted only to "the law" but is now revealed in the person of Jesus Christ (v. 22). The righteousness of God is not revealed in the non-canonical traditions of the Jews but rather Jesus says those traditions transgress the commandments of God.
In conclusion, the preceding context demands that both the law written upon the conscience of the Gentile is comprehended in the law given by God to the Jews as verses 19-20 is simply the contextual conclusion of verses 9-18 that is inclusive of both Gentiles and Jews and their violation of God's law whether written upon conscience or in stone or upon other materials:
Rom. 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
19 ¶ Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
CONCLUSION: Paul is concluding that there is "NONE, no, NOT ONE" Gentile or Jew who has not violated God's law, whether written upon their conscience or given by special revelation. Therefore, there is "NONE, no, NOT ONE" who can be justified by "WORKS' or "DEEDS" that try to KEEP THE LAW as they have already violated it, sinned, and under its curse:
What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;.........for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
That is precisely why "ALL" both Jew and Gentile need salvation through the provision of God by Jesus Christ and there is no justification the law of works - good deeds - as the law has already been violated, they are already under wrath of that law and there is no other way of salvaiton but through faith IN Christ's satisfaction of the Law's wrath and righteousness.
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