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This is a begging the question fallacy.
No it's not. You guys are purporting the literal immersion in water being made righteous.
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
I never said that. I have no iea where you ever got "baptism being made righteous" in any of my posts.
It is symbolic of my death to the world and its sinfulness, and my rising to a new life in Christ.Water baptism is a picture of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ and what He did.
No it isn't, and therefore irrelevant.It's like looking at yourself in a mirror. It's a reflection of you, but not you.
Three thousand were saved, baptized and then added to the church.If water baptism is the literal interpretation of Romans 6, no one baptized will fail to make it to heaven. But too many baptized prove to be failures I'm afraid.
There is no record of any of the 3,000 failing, nor any of the others I mentioned failing. Stick to the Scriptures not your experiences.So, what caused them to fail?
Alrighty fellers, answer me this....
13 neither present ye your members instruments of unrighteousness to the sin, but present yourselves to God as living out of the dead, and your members instruments of righteousness to God;
16 and having been freed from the sin, ye became servants to the righteousness.
19 In the manner of men I speak, because of the weakness of your flesh, for even as ye did present your members servants to the uncleanness and to the lawlessness -- to the lawlessness, so now present your members servants to the righteousness -- to sanctification,
22 And now, having been freed from the sin, and having become servants to God, ye have your fruit -- to sanctification, and the end life age-during;
1) How can water baptism make one a righteous servant?
2) If it literally does all of this, how can one go be with Him w/o being baptized?
I refuse to debate anyone based on a false premise.Wonderful. Now carry this out further. Faith, a gift of God, coincides with repentance at the point of regeneration. All of this happens prior to immersion.
Is one righteous in Christ before they are immersed? If so, then does immersion make one more righteous?
It is symbolic of my death to the world and its sinfulness, and my rising to a new life in Christ.
No it isn't, and therefore irrelevant.
Three thousand were saved, baptized and then added to the church.
Do you believe the Scriptures.
In Acts 10 Peter baptized Cornelius and the great crowd present of all that believed. Do you believe his account there and when he repeated the entire episode in chapter 11?
Do you believe the apostles baptized unbelievers? And yet they baptized thousands?
Was it the baptism or salvation through faith that saved them?
There is no record of any of the 3,000 failing, nor any of the others I mentioned failing. Stick to the Scriptures not your experiences.
Rev, look at the verses in this previous post of mine.....
I refuse to debate anyone based on a false premise.
Faith is not a gift of God given to unbelievers.
In the Bible faith is spoken of as a gift of the Spirit, and as a fruit of the Spirit.
It is absurd to think that God would give either His gifts or fruit to the unregenerate. Instead of Calvinist rhetoric regurgitated, prove from the Scripture that it is a gift from God. Acts 11:18 won't help and neither will Eph.2:8,9.
Righteousness is the theme of Romans 6......
I will take this as admission that you cannot demonstrate that faith is a gift of God to the unregenerate. So be it.You fail to believe much the bible says, I'm afraid....can't help the obstinate....