If you're not familiar with Romans 9 in the context of TULIP, it's a favorite place where the TULIP dreamers go thinking they have proven unconditional election. But it taint so.
Unconditional election denies that God in His foreknowledge looks into the future and determines His elect by free will faith. They believe God by His sovereign will chooses who will be saved and man does not have a choice in the matter.
But what does the Scripture say?
1 Peter 1:1-2
"Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied."
Uh-oh, yet another contradiction added to the many I posted yesterday. It's a never ending cycle of contradictions. But that is no obstacle for the TULIP dreamer, they just ignore it, it just isn't there.
So they ignore plain Scripture and say, hey let's go to Romans 9. Here they have a sure-fire fact of unconditional election, or so they think.
There are probably 3-4 places in Romans 9 they like to take you, just with a wild guess, maybe Romans 9:11 is where they keep the hammer.
"(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth"
Paul has been discussing Israel in the state of unbelief and is in agony over it, his fellow kinsmen, chosen of God but lost.
Paul shoots down Israel's national belief that they are saved by the circumcision covenant through Abraham their father in 9:6-9. He says, "neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children, but in Isaac shall your seed be called."
They are not saved by Abraham's covenant, they must be saved by the faith of Abraham and Isaac.
Then in vs 11 Paul is speaking of Esau and Jacob, who were twins. We read again.
"(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth"
Look at the bold above, now remember what Peter said, "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father,"
Paul is speaking of the "purpose of God according to election, the same thing Peter refers to as "the elect according to the foreknowledge of God."
Paul is not speaking of an unconditional election, but the election standing by His foreknowledge of faith.
God chose Jacob as the birthright through His foreknowledge knowing Jacob would choose to believe and be saved by faith.
The purpose would be that Christ would be born into this world through the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob by an election of faith.
Only by faith is Israel the children of God.
Unconditional election denies that God in His foreknowledge looks into the future and determines His elect by free will faith. They believe God by His sovereign will chooses who will be saved and man does not have a choice in the matter.
But what does the Scripture say?
1 Peter 1:1-2
"Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied."
Uh-oh, yet another contradiction added to the many I posted yesterday. It's a never ending cycle of contradictions. But that is no obstacle for the TULIP dreamer, they just ignore it, it just isn't there.
So they ignore plain Scripture and say, hey let's go to Romans 9. Here they have a sure-fire fact of unconditional election, or so they think.
There are probably 3-4 places in Romans 9 they like to take you, just with a wild guess, maybe Romans 9:11 is where they keep the hammer.
"(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth"
Paul has been discussing Israel in the state of unbelief and is in agony over it, his fellow kinsmen, chosen of God but lost.
Paul shoots down Israel's national belief that they are saved by the circumcision covenant through Abraham their father in 9:6-9. He says, "neither because they are the seed of Abraham are they all children, but in Isaac shall your seed be called."
They are not saved by Abraham's covenant, they must be saved by the faith of Abraham and Isaac.
Then in vs 11 Paul is speaking of Esau and Jacob, who were twins. We read again.
"(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth"
Look at the bold above, now remember what Peter said, "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father,"
Paul is speaking of the "purpose of God according to election, the same thing Peter refers to as "the elect according to the foreknowledge of God."
Paul is not speaking of an unconditional election, but the election standing by His foreknowledge of faith.
God chose Jacob as the birthright through His foreknowledge knowing Jacob would choose to believe and be saved by faith.
The purpose would be that Christ would be born into this world through the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob by an election of faith.
Only by faith is Israel the children of God.