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Romney timeline at Bain 1999-2002

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saturneptune

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mandym said:
Not very consistent is he.
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That is only the beginning. Anyone who drags insulting remarks into posts about someone's spouse and parents because of avatars posted is about as low as it gets. The nicest thing I can say is that I have no use for this individual anymore.
 
Crabtownboy

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Don said:
For both the leaves of absence in 2009 and the one in 2011 -- Yes.

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Two leaves of absence. One in 2009, one in 2011. For both, Jobs remained listed in all SEC documents as CEO. The difference being, Jobs, in his announcements for his leaves of absence, made it quite clear that he was retaining full control of the company. Romney, on the other hand, made it quite clear that he was focusing on his duties as governor.
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Give me a link to that information. I would appreciate it.
 
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targus

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OldRegular said:
I apologize Crabtownboy for asking a serious question. I actually knew you could not answer before I posted so I guess that makes me a troll!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Well, I can answer it...

He played golf and went to a ball game where he kissed his wife and he drank some beer.
 
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Don

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Crabtownboy said:
Don, thanks for the links. Good information there.

However, I meant links showing that during Jobs leave of absence his name still appeared on SEC filings. Can you supply me with such a link?
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Sorry; I thought his announcement that he would remain as CEO would be sufficient.

From http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312509214859/d10k.htm

Note 10 – Related Party Transactions and Certain Other Transactions
The Company entered into a Reimbursement Agreement with its CEO, Steve Jobs....
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Power of Attorney ​
KNOW ALL PERSONS BY THESE PRESENTS, that each person whose signature appears below constitutes and appoints Steven P. Jobs and Peter Oppenheimer, jointly and severally, his attorneys-in-fact, each with the power of substitution, for him in any and all capacities, to sign any amendments to this Annual Report on Form 10-K, and to file the same, with exhibits thereto and other documents in connection therewith, with the Securities and Exchange Commission, hereby ratifying and confirming all that each of said attorneys-in-fact, or his substitute or substitutes, may do or cause to be done by virtue hereof.
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, this report has been signed below by the following persons on behalf of the registrant and in the capacities and on the dates indicated:
Name
/s/ Steven P. Jobs
STEVEN P. JOBS
Title
Chief Executive Officer and Director
(Principal Executive Officer)
Date
October 27, 2009
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Pretty sure I can pull up the one from 2011 if you really want me to.

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Was that enough for ya, CTB? Or do you want me to go find the SEC statement for 2011, too?
 
Crabtownboy

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Don said:
Sorry; I thought his announcement that he would remain as CEO would be sufficient.

From http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312509214859/d10k.htm




Pretty sure I can pull up the one from 2011 if you really want me to.

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Thanks. I appreciate the time you took to find this. Thanks again.

I did notice that the SEC filing was dated October 27, 2009. Jobs was not on leave at that time. He returned to his job on in June 2009. So I still do not know if there were any SEC filings while he was on leave that included his name as CEO.

Romney's name definitely is on SEC filings during the time he says he was on leave.

Jobs last left Apple in January 2009, a six-month leave of absence that was due to "complex health issues." The last time, as is the case in his current hiatus, Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook was left in charge.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article...s_steers_apples_most_successful_era_ever.html
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Jobs returned to work in June 2009 after he underwent a liver transplant at Methodist University Hospital in Tennessee.
 
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Don

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Crabtownboy said:
Thanks. I appreciate the time you took to find this. Thanks again.

I did notice that the SEC filing was dated October 27, 2009. Jobs was not on leave at that time. He returned to his job on in June 2009. So I still do not know if there were any SEC filings while he was on leave that included his name as CEO.

Romney's name definitely is on SEC filings during the time he says he was on leave.



Jobs returned to work in June 2009 after he underwent a liver transplant at Methodist University Hospital in Tennessee.
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Oy, vey. So at what point between 2008 and 2009 did Jobs stop being CEO?

The point, my friend, is that while Jobs was CEO, he had surgery. At the time that he knew he was going to have surgery, he identified clearly to the company that he was retaining responsibility of/for the company; and there was never any doubt that Steve Jobs was "the guy in charge," even though Tim Cook was actually running day-to-day operations.

Since SEC filings are filed annually (please, if you can find any that are done semi-annually or quarterly, let me know), then of course Jobs' name is going to appear on the filing at the end of the fiscal year.

Seriously, these are all things that any first-year business major should be aware of.
 
Crabtownboy

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It seems Romney had slapped a 'tar-baby' and has gotten stuck. Y'all remember Joel Chandler Harris and his Brer Rabbit story don't ya? Well if you are not familiar with it go to:

http://americanfolklore.net/folklore/2010/07/brer_rabbit_meets_a_tar_baby.html

and read it.

Oh, and fact check admits is really does not have information to make much of a case either way about Romney and Bane.

Increasingly, Romney's defense relies on self-styled "independent fact-checkers," Brooks Jackson at Annenberg Center's FactCheck.org and the Washington Post's Glenn Kessler, who have issued quarrelsome denunciations of President Barack Obama's campaign for connecting Romney to Bain's activities from 1999 to 2002.

Yet, these "fact-checkers" acknowledge that they are operating with a limited body of facts, i.e. what has so far been made public. In an interview on MSNBC on Monday, Kessler admitted that he had no access to internal information at Bain Capital regarding how often Romney was in touch with his company in those three years.

Nevertheless, Romney repeatedly has cited the two "fact-checkers" as clearing him of allegations from the Obama campaign -- and now from a number of news organizations -- that a long paper trail exists of Bain Capital reporting Romney's continued involvement with Bain during the three years in question.


On Monday, the New York Times tallied 142 times when Romney's name appears on Bain's securities regulation forms during the three-year period, many listing him as owner, chairman, chief executive officer and the controlling person. Talking Points Memo cited one such form that listed Romney's "principal occupation" as "managing director" of Bain Capital Investors VI Inc., a private equity fund.

Romney also told the Boston Herald in 1999 that he would continue assisting Bain in decisions regarding investments and personnel. However, in TV interviews last Friday, Romney repeated his current mantra that he provided no such input. When pressed on exactly what contacts he actually had, he dodged the questions and referred back to the supportive stories by the two "independent fact-checkers."

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Romney-s-Fact-Checker-Co-by-Robert-Parry-120716-576.html
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mandym

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Crabtownboy said:
It seems Romney had slapped a 'tar-baby' and has gotten stuck. Y'all remember Joel Chandler Harris and his Brer Rabbit story don't ya? Well if you are not familiar with it go to:

http://americanfolklore.net/folklore/2010/07/brer_rabbit_meets_a_tar_baby.html

and read it.

Oh, and fact check admits is really does not have information to make much of a case either way about Romney and Bane.
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You have created your own tar baby. Fact check is using the same info Obama is lying with. This is about creating a false impression. It is pure dishonest politics and you are propagating it. Shame on you. This is not Christian behavior.
 
Crabtownboy

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mandym said:
You have created your own tar baby. Fact check is using the same info Obama is lying with. This is about creating a false impression. It is pure dishonest politics and you are propagating it. Shame on you. This is not Christian behavior.
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Seems you have missed it recently that Romney has been using Fact Check as a defense.
 
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