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Ron Paul Excluded in Iowa

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JGrubbs

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Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance will host a presidential candidates forum on Saturday, June 30th in Des Moines. Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Sam Brownback, Jim Gilmore, Mike Huckabee, Tommy Thompson, and Tom Tancredo will participate.

Ron Paul, however, will not participate. Why? Because he wasn’t invited.

We heard about this forum from numerous supporters in Iowa who asked why Dr. Paul was not going to participate. Those supporters assumed that Dr. Paul was invited.

The campaign office had not received an invitation so we called this morning; thinking we might have misplaced the invitation or simply overlooked it. Lew Moore, our campaign manager, called Mr. Edward Failor, an officer of Iowans for Tax Relief, to ask about it. To our shock, Mr. Failor told us Dr. Paul was not invited; he was not going to be invited; and he would not be allowed to participate. And when asked why, Mr. Failor refused to explain. The call ended.

Lew then called Mr. Steve Sheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance, to talk with him. Mr. Sheffler did not answer so Lew left a message. He has yet to respond.

Why are the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluding the one Republican candidate who scored at the top of every online poll taken after the MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN debates? Why are they denying Iowans the opportunity to hear from the Republican presidential candidate whose popularity is growing by the day?

We couldn’t get answers to these questions from Messrs. Failor and Sheffler. Maybe you’ll have better luck. Their contact information is below.

It's ironic that on the same day we learned the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluded Dr. Paul from their candidates forum, we received a call from ABC News confirming Dr. Paul’s participation in its nationally broadcast August 5th debate to be held in Des Moines.

Kent Snyder, Chairman
Ron Paul 2008


Contact Information

Edward Failor
Iowans for Tax Relief
2610 Park Avenue
Muscatine, Iowa 52761
Phone: 563-288-3600 or 877-913-3600
Fax: 563-264-2413
E-mail: itr@taxrelief.org

Steve Sheffler, President
Iowa Christian Alliance
939 Office Park Road, Suite 115
West Des Moines, Iowa 50265
Phone: 515-225-1515
Fax: 515-225-1826
E-mail: slscheffler@iowachristian.com
 
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TomVols

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I didn't see Rudy's name on the list, either, nor did I see McCain's name. Duncan Hunter isn't there. Wonder if these weren't invited. If not, then they can't be excluding Paul for lack of support. His national polling numbers are still pretty low.
 
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James_Newman

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You would think that Iowans for Tax Relief would welcome a candidate that never votes to raise taxes. Oh, and wants to abolish the IRS.
 
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JGrubbs

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I didn't see their names either, and I too wonder if they were not invited, or simply choose not to participate. I believe McCain and Guilliani both have decided not to participate in the Iowa caucus.

I found out an interesting fact about the national phone polls. Many of them only call registered voters age 30+ to do their surveys. I wonder how many votes from the voters ages 18 to 29 are not being included.

I still don't buy the argument that all of Ron Pauls supporters are hackers and spammers, does that mean that all of these online polls were hack proof prior to this election cycle.
 
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Petra-O IX

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This is a story that the media should expose but ..... will never happen.Hillary and Rudy are the annointed ones and Americans no longer are given the oppurtunity to view a fair debate. Ron Paul is is going to have to make his case via the internet.
 
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KenH

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Here's the email address for Iowans for Tax Relief:

itr@taxrelief.org

And here is the email I just sent to them:

Congressman Ron Paul has been one of the taxpayer's best friends in Congress during his ten terms in office. Therefore, why would you exclude him from your presidential candidates forum on June 30?
 
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KenH

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Petra-O IX said:
Ron Paul is is going to have to make his case via the internet.
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That's why I would really like to see Ron Paul, after the GOP nominates another liberal like George W. Bush, run as a fusion candidate of the Libertarian Party, Constitution Party, and other limited government parties in 2008.
 
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JGrubbs

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KenH said:
That's why I would really like to see Ron Paul, after the GOP nominates another liberal like George W. Bush, run as a fusion candidate of the Libertarian Party, Constitution Party, and other limited government parties in 2008.
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Ron Paul already said that he wouldn't run third-party if he didn't get the GOP nomination. I have heard that Jerome Corsi may be the Constitution Party candidate in 2008.
 
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Rufus_1611

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JOHN McCAIN 2008, INC.

Meet Ed Failor. Iowans for tax relief is apparently not the only organization he is a part of.


Senior Advisor Ed Failor, Jr.
(announced Jan. 23, 2007) Executive Vice President of Iowans for Tax Relief. Senior political advisor to Gov. George Pataki's 21st Century Freedom PAC (announced June 14, 2006; part of initial leadership team; departure reported Nov. 21, 2006). During the 2004 presidential campaign Failor served as executive director of Iowa Victory 2004, helping Bush to carry the battleground state. (Source: http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/mccain/mccainorgia.html)
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Rufus_1611

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James_Newman said:
What part of he didn't get invited don't you understand? Once the plans have been made, they cannot be changed, according to the laws of the Iowans for Tax Relief.
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Right and if they invited Ron Paul now, then they'd have to invite everyone and their yeas wouldn't be yeas ;) . Besides if they put one more guy on the stage, then it might collapse and if the stage collapses it might fray electrical wires and start the building on fire, and if the building gets on fire then the grass outside the building will light and if the grass starts on fire before you know it...no more corn in Iowa. We are talking about a serious threat to our national corn supply! Failor should consider calling in Chertoff as he's dealing with some serious stuff here :eek:
 
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Rufus_1611

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Iowa Tax Group Banning GOP's Ron Paul Seeks Loopholes for Special Interests

GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-Tex) has been banned from a debate forum sponsored in part by Iowans for Tax Relief. But suprising facts are emerging about IFTR that call into question the substance of its mission and even its positioning as an anti-tax organization.

FMNN feedbacker Gary Johnson writes that "Iowans for Tax Relief" may actually be a misnomer. He points to a suprising commentary from "Roth & Company PC," - posted March 2006 - blasting Iowans for Tax Relief as follows:

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The group "Iowans for Tax Relief" has a name that belies its purpose. It supports special interest carve-outs and corporate welfare tax subsidies that shrink the tax base and raise the rates on the rest of us. It also refuses to even consider eliminating the deduction for state income taxes in exchange for lower rates.

All of this gets the Iowa tax system great publicity. Earlier this week Iowa was listed by the Tax Foundation as having one of the ten worst tax environments for business, thanks in no small part to the work of Iowans for Tax Relief. Yesterday Iowa made another top-ten list, in a Wall Street Journal editorial titled "Meathead Economics."

Iowa's listed right up there with glamorous states like New York, California, Hawaii and New Jersey. ... If we just lowered the rates and eliminated the deduction, 6.46% would get us out of the Meathead top-ten list, but thanks to Iowans for Tax Relief, there it is. (Some people say they don't trust the legislature to creep the rates back up. That's where a supermajority for tax increases or a Colorado-style taxpayer bill of rights comes into play). Maybe IFTR will consider changing their name to the more accurate "Iowans for Special Interest Loopholes and High Rates."

P.S.: Iowa's 12% top corporate tax rate is still #1. Thanks, IFTR!

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poncho

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JGrubbs said:
Ron Paul already said that he wouldn't run third-party if he didn't get the GOP nomination. I have heard that Jerome Corsi may be the Constitution Party candidate in 2008.
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Jerome Corsi? Does the Constitution party want to be co opted by neoconservatives like the GOP and Dem parties have been? Don't get me wrong, Corsi has done a great job exposing the SPP and all but the man still supports a neoconservative approach to foreign policy.
 
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