Ruckman DEBATE

Obviously,"1611 KJV" is simply a"lunatick" imposter performing a mockery of Ruckman and the KJB,and those replyingto this thread are just as involved in his mockery, or are you people really that gullible?

 

I don't think he's that, it is rather obvious of him being an imposter.To type his posts in the manner he has, it would take an education that his posts don't "appear" to maintain, thus the imposter has exposed himself as a warped person with an agenda.

 

That is a very godly testimony, isn't it.

"I can call them a name if they call me a name first."

Sounds like something I might deal with my child about .

 

My brother has been a Ruckmanite for twenty years. My brother lived with me for a while and I can tell you from experience that my brother oozed hatred. He cussed and vehemently hated catholics. He used to bring much Ruckman material into my home and it was always apparent when he did so.....there would be spiritual oppression so thick that it could be cut with a knife. My brother went from one hateful day to the next rarely experiencing the joy of the Lord. When he mmoved out of my home, things were peaceful. Then one day I loaded a VCR tape into the machine to watch "The Wizard of Oz" and went into the kitchen to do something while the movie started. Without being able to hear the movie because I was in another room, I began to feel a very evil presence around me. When I went back into the living room, I saw Ruckman on the tape doing one of his famous "chalk talks". My brother had recorded over my movie and this junk was coming into my home again. I destroyed the tape and all other tapes I had just in case he had done the same to them as well. Think about this....those "chalk talks" are nothing more than hypnosis. The viewer is watching the picture being drawn while listening to this ungodly creature preach his false doctrine. Pray for those who are involved in this cultic group and stay as far away from Ruckman as you can!!!

 

I can understand the confusion. Give the kid a break already.
Blood receiving = "As many as received Him, gave He the power to become the sons of God"

I understand it. Never heard it, but I understand it.

Adam, feel free to fellowship here all you want to. You are welcome young man!

In HIS service;
Jim

I posted this BEFORE I noticed it had 4 pages. I wrote my comments after reading to the end of page one.
I do NOT agree with much of Doc Ruckman's weird science. OK?

 

Diane, watch out for those big lips. The mark of the beast must be fuzzy around the edges if he has a beard.

 

I have many of Ruckman's books, and have read his debates with others. Ruckman does not show Christian love to those that disagree with him about things like KJV-onlyism, he only shows contempt. He cusses and calls names, such as "Alexandrian Cultists" "Heretics" and "Apostates" to those who are not KJV-only. He relies on emotional persuasion, both to offend his "enemies" and to retain his "Ruckmanknights". I have not met him in person, but I was invited a couple of years ago to debate him publically. I politely declined for several reasons.

Here's some links for you 1611 kjv:

http://cnview.com/on_line_resources/ruckmanism_or_wreckmanism.htm
http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Despatch/vol91_RUCKMAN.html
http://www.moriel.org/articles/discernment/ruckmanism/what_is_ruckmanite_cult.htm
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fbns-index/ruckmanfbns.htm (and this is by a KJV-only author!)
http://www.aomin.org/ruckcor.html
http://www.aomin.org/ResponseToRuckman.html
http://www.literaturabautista.com/english/dangerruckmanism.htm

There are MANY more such links. I will be praying for you and others like you (and even Ruckman himself). Please be wary.

 

Ignorance comes in many forms...and, apparantly, many ages as well.

In Christ,
Trotter

 

Shouldn't that tell you about his beliefs and what Jesus said about how others will identify the believers? He is not one of them.

 

He is only qualififed for one thing--the recipient of church discipline.

 

"DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)

"SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "…neither cast your pearls before swine"

"VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers…" (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)

"HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "…as the hypocrites in the synagogues…" (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)

"CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil…" (see also Acts 13:10)

"PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"…O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)

"REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "…except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)

"HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "…as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)

"FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "…Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)

"WICKED AND ADULTEROUS" Mat. 16:4 "A wicked and adulterous generation" (see also Mat. 12:45, 13:49, 18:32, 21:41, 25:26, Luke 19:22, 1Cor. 5:13, 2Thes. 3:2, 2Pet. 2:7, 3:17)

"O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ’s favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.

"STIFF-NECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "…stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart"

"LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:2 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)

"ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "…whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses…" (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)

"WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul the apostle to the high priest .

I believe Jesus called people a few names...there's more in the Old Testament. I don't know Ruckman, but I think I'd rather meet him before I would Billy Graham.

 

My brother is a Ruckmanite. Wasn't always but is now. Here is where even the KJVO crowd parts ways.

Ruckmanites (not RuckmanKnights) believe the KJV is actually inspired. That the translators were actually touched of God and given divine guidance.

Most of the KJVO crowd believe it to be Gods' preserved word. This slight difference makes the KJVO and any other translation christians apostate according to Ruckman.

Most Ruckman churches are small works. My brothers church is about 25 years old and still has only 12 pews. They are grandstanders using street preaching as a vehicle of persecution by standing on city hall or state capital properties etc. (I have no problem with street preaching when done properly).

Ruckman expresses no love and even calls names to other solid churches. It is sad that the house of God has to be numbered with such a bullie!!

 

Jesus had authority to call people such names Granny, He knew their hearts. Mr Ruckman doesn't know anyone's heart.

 

Remember it was only the religionists who Jesus condemned.

 

Most Ruckman churches are small works.

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Proof please! Ya'll are constanly on us about giving you proof of our statements. Quid pro quo

In HIS service;
Jim

 

I also oppose this arguement. The size of a work indicates nothing.

 

I will rephrase: The Ruckman churches that I know of are small works. It doesn't mean anything other than they aren't growing very well. Not all...Just the ones I know of. Sorry for painting with a broad brush.