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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Van, Jul 5, 2023.

  1. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Revealing Grace + Repentance + Faith + Election + Spiritual Baptism + Conversion + Indwelling = Salvation + Good Works

    Where:

    Revealing Grace = hearing and understanding the call through the gospel of Christ.

    Repentance + Faith = turning from our self-centered life to trusting in Christ alone with our life, now and forever.

    Election = God choosing for salvation those whose faith He credits as righteousness.

    Spiritual Baptism = God sets a person apart by placing them spiritually “in Christ.”

    Conversion = Once “in Christ” a person undergoes the circumcision of Christ and arises “in Christ” a new creation, created for good works. It is a spiritual work of God, not us changing our minds.

    Indwelling = After God puts us spiritually in Christ, He seals us with the Holy Spirit forever. The Holy Spirit provides each born anew (converted) believer with light to understand the meat of God’s word, awareness of the will of God, and brings to mind our sins such that we are convicted. As we grow more mature, we will exhibit the fruit of the Spirit.

    Salvation = First our "spiritual baptism into Christ" results in "positional sanctification" freeing us from the penalty of sin; Next as our indwelt Holy Spirit leads us from new born Christian to Christian maturity describes our "progressive sanctification" freeing us from the power of sin; and finally our adoption in glorified bodies at Christ's second coming results in our "ultimate sanctification" freeing us from the presence of sin.

    Good Works = reflects our accomplishments for Christ after our positional sanctification and conversion during the remainder of our physical lifetime. If we build on Christ's foundation, we will enter heaven "abundantly" but if our "good works" burn up like straw, we still enter heaven, but as one escaping from a fire.

    Note that not part of the Salvation formula is "effective call" or "irresistible grace" or "gift of faith" or any of the other terms used to deny God credits the faith of some individuals, as flawed as it may be, as the basis for their election to salvation.
     
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    "This formula for immortality will never work. You left out the incantation which must be verbalized."

    "You left out the water also [Mark 16:16]. Think about it, if you don't get this formula 'just right' it could mean infinity in a torture chamber for who knows how many."

    Help: The Gospel Presented in 280 Characters
     
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    The error of the OP is that the purpose of articulating this “salvation formula” is, apparently, to disprove the doctrines of grace rather than actually understanding what scripture says.

    Another failed attempt to slay Calvinism.

    peace to you
     
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  4. Van

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    Yet another poster claiming to be a mind-reader. Go figure, they cannot present edifying commentary on the thread topic, so they say "taint so" and Van is bad for saying so in endless ways. :)

    Does Calvinism deny God's revelation in His word? Nope

    Does Calvinism deny repentance and faith? Nope

    Does Calvinism deny election for salvation? Nope

    Does Calvinism deny spiritual baptism? Nope

    Does Calvinism deny conversion and rebirth? Nope

    Does Calvinism deny Indwelling with the Holy Spirit? Nope

    Does Calvinism deny salvation from the consequence of sin? Nope

    Does Calvinism deny as new creatures in Christ we are created for good works? Nope
     
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    I said….
    The OP responded…
    No need to be a mind reader. Here is what you posted…
    So, again it is clear the error of the OP comes from the reason for articulating a salvation formula isn’t to seek truth, but to disprove Calvinism.

    It is clear bias when The OP says….

    1. “Note”, which is drawing attention to something they think is important..

    2. The OP list several things supported by the doctrines of grace not found in the “salvation formula” that is being presented (the OP’s opinion)

    So, the preconceived beliefs are forced upon doctrine to come to the desired outcome.

    No mind reading required.

    peace to you
     
  6. Van

    Van Well-Known Member
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    Once again the Salvation Formula was not challenged. Only my motives, which as always is to present truth.
    Does Calvinism deny God's revelation in His word? Nope
    Does Calvinism deny repentance and faith? Nope
    Does Calvinism deny election for salvation? Nope
    Does Calvinism deny spiritual baptism? Nope
    Does Calvinism deny conversion and rebirth? Nope
    Does Calvinism deny Indwelling with the Holy Spirit? Nope
    Does Calvinism deny salvation from the consequence of sin? Nope
    Does Calvinism deny as new creatures in Christ we are created for good works? Nope

    Thus the Salvation formula is spot on, and is supported biblically at every point.

    Revealing Grace + Repentance + Faith + Election + Spiritual Baptism + Conversion + Indwelling = Salvation + Good Works
     
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    Salvation is not a formula.
     
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    Van Well-Known Member
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    Do we have yet another "taint so" with no "what is so" post? Obfuscation on display.

    Ask yourselves why do these posters post with nothing to say?
     
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