Salvation in government action

[KevinThrowe]

Seeing the reports on the anniversary of the German death camps , it made me wonder how God sees the guilt of these crimes population of a nation due to the actions of their government. Few would argue that most workers at the death camps knew what was happening. Did they all get sent to hell for their part in the killings. Since most Germans did not know the truth where did their souls land in the judgment? With America becoming a nation of crimes against humanity where will the divide between salvation and damnation be?

 

[Charlie24]

Seeing the reports on the anniversary of the German death camps , it made me wonder how God sees the guilt of these crimes population of a nation due to the actions of their government. Few would argue that most workers at the death camps knew what was happening. Did they all get sent to hell for their part in the killings. Since most Germans did not know the truth where did their souls land in the judgment? With America becoming a nation of crimes against humanity where will the divide between salvation and damnation be?

The divide between salvation and damnation is the Cross of Christ.

All sins can be forgiven accept the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

The questions is, "what did they do with Christ?" The entire world will be judged on that question.

 

[KevinThrowe]

The divide between salvation and damnation is the Cross of Christ.

All sins can be forgiven accept the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

The questions is, "what did they do with Christ?" The entire world will be judged on that question.

Quite vague don’t you think. The reports on the camps told of acts that would have the person know what had taken place logic would have them guilty of the sin . Sister Ellen taught us in Sunday school that to see and know a sin is to be guilty of the sin.

 

[Ben1445]

Quite vague don’t you think. The reports on the camps told of acts that would have the person know what had taken place logic would have them guilty of the sin . Sister Ellen taught us in Sunday school that to see and know a sin is to be guilty of the sin.

Kind of vague isn’t that?
If I watch someone else rob a bank, that makes me their accomplice?
There would require some aiding and abetting.

 

[KevinThrowe]

Kind of vague isn’t that?
If I watch someone else rob a bank, that makes me their accomplice?
There would require some aiding and abetting.

But this is more about the activities that assist. If you did not call the cops or testify it changes the legal status.
Consider the men who drug the bodies to the crematoriums
The American pilots who know the lack of due process.
As opposed to Germany we know what our leader is doing illegally.

 

[Ben1445]

I’m not willing to be someone else’s judge on the matter. Do you think that you should be an accomplice if you don’t call the police. Is there not any such thing as an innocent bystander?
As far as Germany in the 30’s and 40’s, not only is there really no one left to judge, there is also a severe lack of knowledge about any individual in Germany to be able to have any kind of fair opinion.
But God is not lacking this knowledge. He will judge everyone according to his own work.

But you’re right in the one area. I don’t disagree.
James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

 

[KevinThrowe]

I’m not willing to be someone else’s judge on the matter. Do you think that you should be an accomplice if you don’t call the police. Is there not any such thing as an innocent bystander?
As far as Germany in the 30’s and 40’s, not only is there really no one left to judge, there is also a severe lack of knowledge about any individual in Germany to be able to have any kind of fair opinion.
But God is not lacking this knowledge. He will judge everyone according to his own work.

But you’re right in the one area. I don’t disagree.
James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Do you not see a possibility that a government does so much bad in the name of Christianity that it has an affect on the souls of the populace?

 

[Charlie24]

Quite vague don’t you think. The reports on the camps told of acts that would have the person know what had taken place logic would have them guilty of the sin . Sister Ellen taught us in Sunday school that to see and know a sin is to be guilty of the sin.

God made a way for all men to escape their sin. Salvation is an individual experience for all of us.

In the end it's not sin that condemns a person, it's the fact that his name is not written in the Book of Life that he is sentenced to the Lake of Fire.

His sins were never forgiven by Grace through faith in Christ.

 

[KevinThrowe]

God made a way for all men to escape their sin. Salvation is an individual experience for all of us.

In the end it's not sin that condemns a person, it's the fact that his name is not written in the Book of Life that he is sentenced to the Lake of Fire.

His sins were never forgiven by Grace through faith in Christ.

God made a way for all men to escape their sin. Salvation is an individual experience for all of us.

In the end it's not sin that condemns a person, it's the fact that his name is not written in the Book of Life that he is sentenced to the Lake of Fire.

His sins were never forgiven by Grace through faith in Christ.

God whipped out the world population hard to think each one sinned that bad?

 

[Charlie24]

God whipped out the world population hard to think each one sinned that bad?

If you believe God's Holy Word (the Bible) and I hope you do, all men are guilty before God, there is none righteous.

 

[KevinThrowe]

God made a way for all men to escape their sin. Salvation is an individual experience for all of us.

In the end it's not sin that condemns a person, it's the fact that his name is not written in the Book of Life that he is sentenced to the Lake of Fire.

His sins were never forgiven by Grace through faith in Christ.

If you believe God's Holy Word (the Bible) and I hope you do, all men are guilty before God, there is none righteous.

I love the image, worker from the German camp, Friday, “ bless me father for I have sinned. This week I forced 2,000 people into the gas chambers, I’m sorry” say 5 “Hail Mary’s” and do more killing “ ?

 

[Charlie24]

I love the image, worker from the German camp, Friday, “ bless me father for I have sinned. This week I forced 2,000 people into the gas chambers, I’m sorry” say 5 “Hail Mary’s” and do more killing “ ?

That would be a horrible situation to be in, murder or be killed.

What they did with Christ determined where they are now.

 

[Conan]

We are in the same position today as the German citizens were then. Now it is not Germany killing people all over Europe and Asia and Africa, it's the United States of America. We have over 750 military bases all over the World. We have China, Russia Iran surrounded. We are behind all the wars on this planet. We bomb Women and Children and Unarmed Men. We use terrorist to do our bidding in Syria, Libya and Africa. Certainly we are close to killing as many as Hitler did now. War in Afghanistan Iraq Syria Ukraine Sudan Chile Vietnam North Korea color revolutions, the list goes on and on. Doesn't matter who you vote for. Democrats or Republicans , war is on the agenda. We are a Nation of War and murder and starvation and chaos.

 

[Charlie24]

We are in the same position today as the German citizens were then. Now it is not Germany killing people all over Europe and Asia and Africa, it's the United States of America. We have over 750 military bases all over the World. We have China, Russia Iran surrounded. We are behind all the wars on this planet. We bomb Women and Children and Unarmed Men. We use terrorist to do our bidding in Syria, Libya and Africa. Certainly we are close to killing as many as Hitler did now. War in Afghanistan Iraq Syria Ukraine Sudan Chile Vietnam North Korea color revolutions, the list goes on and on. Doesn't matter who you vote for. Democrats or Republicans , war is on the agenda. We are a Nation of War and murder and starvation and chaos.

My Lord, Conan, you act as though Trump has no reason to act on the bad players in this world.

 

[Conan]

My Lord, Conan, you act as though Trump has no reason to act on the bad players in this world.

Trump is a bad player in this world. He just kidnapped a democratically elected leader to steal his Oil . God said thou shalt not steal. That exactly is what Trump is doing. Murdering and stealing the resources of Venezuela. He is stealing from the People of Venezuela for Global oil Corporations and their boards.

 

[Charlie24]

Trump is a bad player in this world. He just kidnapped a democratically elected leader to steal his Oil . God said thou shalt not steal. That exactly is what Trump is doing. Murdering and stealing the resources of Venezuela. He is stealing from the People of Venezuela for Global oil Corporations and their boards.

That's your opinion! I see a defiant leader of a country sending illegal drugs into our country.

He was warned many times to stop and now he will answer to his crimes and the rest of the world will see America has a real leader.

A message to the world, get in line or we will put some genuine made in the USA boot leather on your rear end.

 

[Conan]

That's your opinion! I see a defiant leader of a country sending illegal drugs into our country.

He was warned many times to stop and now he will answer to his crimes and the rest of the world will see America has a real leader.

A message to the world, get in line or we will put some genuine made in the USA boot leather on your rear end.

And you will get to spend time with the German citizens of WW2. You are behaving exactly Like them. The Lord God said do not murder. Do not steal. Your attitude is one of murder. Is one about stealing. Grow up. Ask God if it is not so. Don't just assume your and Trumps actions are right because you are American. Ask God. Not trump/biden/obama/bush/clint0n.

 

[Conan]

 

[KevinThrowe]

My Lord, Conan, you act as though Trump has no reason to act on the bad players in this world.

My Lord, Conan, you act as though Trump has no reason to act on the bad players in this world.

So somehow the adulterer is the one to judge ?

 

[Charlie24]

And you will get to spend time with the German citizens of WW2. You are behaving exactly Like them. The Lord God said do not murder. Do not steal. Your attitude is one of murder. Is one about stealing. Grow up. Ask God if it is not so. Don't just assume your and Trumps actions are right because you are American. Ask God. Not trump/biden/obama/bush/clint0n.

If you have a problem with the USA take that to the Lord, meanwhile our president will use the power he has to protect our interests no matter what the rest of the world thinks of it.

Thank God we now have a president that will use the God-given power he has to stop tyranny in this world.

I suppose you didn't like the strike on Iran either?