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Salvation in government action

Charlie24

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So somehow the adulterer is the one to judge ?

Kevin, all I'm saying is that this world is not fair, we are faced with situations at times where it seems there is no way out.

Jesus Christ is the only way out, He is merciful and gracious, willing to forgive and save man from his self inflicted wounds of sin.

He is the Savior today, but tomorrow He will be the Judge.
 
And you will get to spend time with the German citizens of WW2. You are behaving exactly Like them. The Lord God said do not murder. Do not steal. Your attitude is one of murder. Is one about stealing. Grow up. Ask God if it is not so. Don't just assume your and Trumps actions are right because you are American. Ask God. Not trump/biden/obama/bush/clint0n.
That would be a horrible situation to be in, murder or be killed.

What they did with Christ determined where they are now.
Exactly . So my question is how is that being played out with the souls of Americans.? The anniversary of Auschwitz this year they told the stories of the death camp. These images, the guard drug the gassed dead by the feet to the crematorium . One soul . Across Germany the baker who listens to zero news but gets a feeling of what is happening. And the butcher who listens to the radio propaganda and loves the final solution . Where do these souls end up . In America we get the instant telling of the killing. I send them each morning to Ohio’s senator.70 years of I hope proper obedience to the commandments to get into heaven now could these actions by our government change that. I recall this God whipped out all by 8 members of mankind because men had become so violent and full of sin.
 
If you believe God's Holy Word (the Bible) and I hope you do, all men are guilty before God, there is none righteous.
That does not address the question. The Bible is about what it takes to get salvation. As America becomes a murdering nation it must have an affect. God gave us rules for a reason.
 

Conan

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If you have a problem with the USA take that to the Lord, meanwhile our president will use the power he has to protect our interests no matter what the rest of the world thinks of it.

Thank God we now have a president that will use the God-given power he has to stop tyranny in this world.

I suppose you didn't like the strike on Iran either?
We are the world's tyrannical government Charlie24. I once believe exactly like you. We are both brainwashed Charlie24. We will even violate God's laws for America! But we should never violate God's laws. Not for Trump/Biden/Obama/Bush/Clint0n or anyone else. It took me forever to break free from my brainwashing. Hopefully it will not take you as long.
 

Charlie24

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We are the world's tyrannical government Charlie24. I once believe exactly like you. We are both brainwashed Charlie24. We will even violate God's laws for America! But we should never violate God's laws. Not for Trump/Biden/Obama/Bush/Clint0n or anyone else. It took me forever to break free from my brainwashing. Hopefully it will not take you as long.

What Law of God is our POTUS violating?

Maduro was declared an international criminal in 2020, after many chances to make this right he rebelled and now he will pay the piper.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
That does not address the question. The Bible is about what it takes to get salvation. As America becomes a murdering nation it must have an affect. God gave us rules for a reason.

It seems we have an insurgence of Anti-America on the boards.

If you have that much hate for America you can always leave, it's ok, we will let you go.
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
Exactly . So my question is how is that being played out with the souls of Americans.? The anniversary of Auschwitz this year they told the stories of the death camp. These images, the guard drug the gassed dead by the feet to the crematorium . One soul . Across Germany the baker who listens to zero news but gets a feeling of what is happening. And the butcher who listens to the radio propaganda and loves the final solution . Where do these souls end up . In America we get the instant telling of the killing. I send them each morning to Ohio’s senator.70 years of I hope proper obedience to the commandments to get into heaven now could these actions by our government change that. I recall this God whipped out all by 8 members of mankind because men had become so violent and full of sin.
The German People were not told about the gas chambers or the final solution. They were supposedly working camps. When the Russians first liberated the death camps in Poland the west had a hard time comprehending it. Why would Hitler kill his slave labor? To the German People they thought it propaganda at first. Also please know we are backing Nazis in Ukraine the followers of Stephen Bandera, Hitlers man in Ukraine. Many German elites are the children of Nazis.
But to answer your questions most Democrats and Republicans are brainwashed and don't know we are the bad guys. Most of Americans are good guys so we project that onto our corrupt leaders, billionaires, Pentagon's top leadership and political membership. We are the world's warmongers. It used to be Nazi Germany and Colonialism of Europe were the warmongers.
When the Soviet union was around we had to behave and not push countries towards them. But when the Soviet union split up then we said NOTHING will tell us what to do. We will behave as we wish and we will have no rival.
 

Conan

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It seems we have an insurgence of Anti-America on the boards.

If you have that much hate for America you can always leave, it's ok, we will let you go.
Quit being so shallow and try to see past the propaganda we were all raised with.
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
What Law of God is our POTUS violating?

Maduro was declared an international criminal in 2020, after many chances to make this right he rebelled and now he will pay the piper.
You shall not murder. You shall not steal. You shall not covet all that OIL in Venezuela.
 

Charlie24

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Quit being so shallow and try to see past the propaganda we were all raised with.

I still believe God is with America, if for no other reason to protect His chosen, Israel.

There is corruption all around us and here in the USA, but I still believe in the shining city on the hill.

I also believe God is using that city to hold back the forces of evil until He comes.
 

Conan

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I still believe God is with America, if for no other reason to protect His chosen, Israel.

There is corruption all around us and here in the USA, but I still believe in the shining city on the hill.

I also believe God is using that city to hold back the forces of evil until He comes.
God does not murder women and children. God does not tell us to steal other countries resources. That's not being a shiny city on a hill. That's being something else.
 

Charlie24

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You shall not murder. You shall not steal. You shall not covet all that OIL in Venezuela.

Jumping the gun aren't you! We are yet to see what will happen with the oil.

Trump has already said exactly what will happen with the oil.

Can you at least wait to see if he keeps his word?
 

Charlie24

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God does not murder women and children. God does not tell us to steal other countries resources. That's not being a shiny city on a hill. That's being something else.

Hatred can blind the eyes of even the righteous man.
 

Conan

Well-Known Member
Jumping the gun aren't you! We are yet to see what will happen with the oil.

Trump has already said exactly what will happen with the oil.

Can you at least wait to see if he keeps his word?
Oh he has coveted that oil for a long, long time. Yes he is going to steal it. Only God can stop his wickedness.
 
What Law of God is our POTUS violating?

Maduro was declared an international criminal in 2020, after many chances to make this right he rebelled and now he will pay the piper.
POTUS has violated all Ten Commandments and the one Jesus himself gave us. Not the original question.
The ICC put out a real warrant on Netanyahu and Trump ignore it, there was no grand jury or international investigation. Bush is wanted on an international warrant what if someone decides to do this here . Venezuela could sell oil to China for$ 30 a barrel and disrupt the economy.
 
We are the world's tyrannical government Charlie24. I once believe exactly like you. We are both brainwashed Charlie24. We will even violate God's laws for America! But we should never violate God's laws. Not for Trump/Biden/Obama/Bush/Clint0n or anyone else. It took me forever to break free from my brainwashing. Hopefully it will not take you as long.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
POTUS has violated all Ten Commandments and the one Jesus himself gave us. Not the original question.
The ICC put out a real warrant on Netanyahu and Trump ignore it, there was no grand jury or international investigation. Bush is wanted on an international warrant what if someone decides to do this here . Venezuela could sell oil to China for$ 30 a barrel and disrupt the economy.

Venezuela can't do it now!

I would be the judge and jury like you if I knew all the intel involved.

But I don't know all of it, but it seems you and Conan do.
 
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