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Sandra Bland Family Seeking Independent Autopsy of Woman Found Dead in Texas Jail
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Zaac
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Y'all have got some serious issues because the lot of you seem to think that it's okay for someone to end up dead just because they didn't "do what the cop says".
Zaac
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And they deserve one. Their child is dead over something that has been scripted right out of the police officer how to get away with murder manual.
Zaac
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I would think her family would know a little bit more about her mental state than would the police department under whose custody she died.
You're quick to believe their "alleged reports" that amazingly support their notion of suicide. Awfully convenient if she died at their hands.
All of, if true, had NOTHING to do with her arrest and subsequent death.
No. No, It's not the end of the episode. Race baiters and police haters will keep it alive as long as they can. A cynical family is looking for a big payday.
But as far as the cause of death, it's the end of the story.
She killed herself. Period.
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I'm sorry, Zaac, but it seems that your view is affected by racist presuppositions. The woman was rightly pulled over, rightly arrested, and as far as we know killed herself in a jail cell. I can understand the family wanting a full autopsy, and if the results are questionable then I can understand an investigation. But I cannot understand how you come to your conclusions without it being racism on your part. It is a tragedy and people are using it for their agendas.
I think that your bias against white people, and white police officers particularly, is affecting your reasoning.
Zaac
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I disagree.
No one denies that she should have been pulled over if she broke the law. It's everything afterwards that I find questionable.
Why? Because cops who knew just how far to move to be out of dashcam range said so? Because cops out of range of the dashcam had the script to make it appear as though she was doing something to justify slamming her head on the ground and anything else?
As yall like to say, don't jump to conclusions. All I'm sure of at this point is that she died. The how is still up for debate.
Sounds like you might be channeling some racism there yourself. :laugh: I can fully understand how I come to my conclusions as this wouldn't be the first time that a cop has murdered a black person and then tried to make it look like it was something else.
Have you forgotten already the cop shooting the fleeing man in the back and then moving the taser?
I don't put anything past them at this point because I'm consistently seeing things that call their behavior into question.
If you think that's racist, I'm good with that.
Are you challenging Romans 13, tapeworm? "Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves" [v.2].
LOL. He saves that verse for the folk who criticize the zero.
Sandra Bland Family Seeking Independent Autopsy of Woman Found Dead in Texas ...
Sorry, I did not realize this was the same police officer. While maybe not completely justified I can understand you jumping to condemnation then.
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Sorry, I did not realize this was the same police officer. While maybe not completely justified I can understand you jumping to condemnation then.
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Zaac
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No one said it was the same police officer. But again as yall have said so many times before, how about we wait and see?
When black people start to end up dead over some stupid stuff, history shows that there is often times foul play.
They have attempted to say this for decades, only to have their concerns dismissed and marginalized.
After what I've seen in the last few years, I remain suspect.
Sorry, we all have presuppositions based on experience, but I try not to deal in stereotypes. I don't mean this bad, but what is the difference between stereotypes based on race and racism?
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Zaac
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There's no stereotype unless you too are stereotyping the officers as not having done anything. I just believe that something else took place and it's being covered.
It is you, not I, that am making assumptions. I don't know what happened in that cell. You, however, know (because these are white officers and the woman is black) that something else took place and it's being covered. We all have our presuppositions based on experience, Zaac. When these presuppositions are centered on race, and they influence what we do or conclude, we call that racism. There may or may not be a cover up by the police. But your conclusion is pure racism (and if a white police officer made conclusions as you have here and elsewhere on this thread, then you would be right to call the officer a racist as well). You see, racism is not forming initial impressions about someone based on the color of their skin. It is allowing those initial impressions to influence our actions or conclusions.
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Zaac
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Unless YOU were making an assumption, there wouldn't be any reason for you then to challenge what I said I believed to have happened.
That would be a lie coming from you and you're better than that. I didn't say I knew anything. I said I BELIEVED there was a coverup. I don't have a problem with you believing skin color played a part in my surmise as white police officers and officers period have a history in this country of foul play when it comes to black people.
A woman was pulled over for not signalling a lane change, brutalized conveniently off camera, and dead in two days from supposedly hanging herself with a trashbag?
So yes, I suspect a coverup from the OFFICERS, whatever their skin color, just as was the case in North Charleston.
Then WE call it incorrectly because that isn't the definition of racism. and you've assumed my assumption was centered on race.
I submit that my assumption was centered on a woman ecstatic to be starting a new job within three days of her arrival down there being pulled over and incarcerated and found dead by a trashbag hanging in her cell.
I said I believe there was. So how is your statement any less of an assumption/
Naah. You just ASSUMED it was racism because you've gotten into the mode of thinking that I only think one way, and that your righteous voice is gonna show me the error of my ways. :laugh: You haven't even come close to describing anything that is racism.
And police officers, white and black, use their privileged positions to exert power over black people which explains the racial profiling. So to your point, the officers ALREADY on a daily basis make such conclusions.
It only becomes racism when they believe they have a right to do so because of their skin color.
So I say again, a woman pulled over for not signaling a lane change is dead because of a series of events that took place after her arrest. She's alleged to have hung herself with a trashbag. Those things by themself are enough to make me think there is a coverup no matter who was involved.
That IS NOT racism. Racism is an issue of power and thinking your skin color gives you the right to exhibit that power over someone else.
Naaah....you assumed my assumption was to assume your assumption was centered on race when in fact my assumption of assuming your assumption was racially motivated was a presupposition based on previous experience rather than baseless assumption. :smilewinkgrin:
Zaac
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Nope because you SAID my presupposition was centered on race. That's not an assumption. That's verbatim what you typed.