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Sarah Palin: Trick or...Trick

Crabtownboy

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So I was on a panel today with Mark McKinnon and Matthew Dowd--who brought you the last two Bush presidential campaigns--as well as Donna Brazile and Hilary Rosen....and Matt Dowd's candor was up on Huffington before I got back to the office:


"They didn't let John McCain pick the person he wanted to pick as VP," Dowd declared during the Time Warner Summit panel. "When Sarah Palin got picked instead of Joe Lieberman, which I fundamentally believed would have given John McCain the best opportunity in this race... as soon as he picked Palin, that whole ready versus not ready argument was not credible."

Saying that Palin was a "net negative" on the ticket, he went on: "[McCain] knows, in his gut, that he put somebody unqualified on the ballot. He knows that in his gut, and when this race is over that is something he will have to live with... He put somebody unqualified on that ballot and he put the country at risk, he knows that."

McKinnon pushed back a bit half-heartedly about this, but the bottom line on the Palin selection is increasingly clear: it was a historically bad decision by McCain, a gimmick that backfired--not just because Palin is so clearly unsuited for high office, but because it demonstrated McCain's own severe deficiencies as an executive.

It has been striking to me this year that the public seems far more serious about this election--far less tolerant of diversions--than some of my colleagues in the media. In this particular case, with Palin's support evaporating in the polls as people get to know her better, the public (with the exception of the Republican base) has proven that it is taking this election more seriously than the Republican candidate.


http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/sarah_palin_trick_ortrick.html

One of several McCain mistakes or shown weaknesses. Another is he keep saying,
Czechoslovakia. Apparently he either does not know or can't remember that Czechoslovakia no longer exists. It is now the Czech Republic and Slovakia ... two countries. The Czechs are both amused at his ignorance and also insulted that he does not know they exist as a country. I expect the Slovaks feel the same, though I have not had the opportunity to speak with anyone from Slovakia during my first week here.
 

LeBuick

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Palin is certainly pulling her weight solidifying the base. She is still puling large crowds and is the reason McCain is as high in the polls as he currently is. She definitely put a lot of excitement in the McCain camp. Choosing Lieberman would have made this a land slide since a lot of the ultra conservatives would have staid home on Nov 4th.

Palin plus side initially worked as she had drawing power and was pulling votes over the fence. I believe many people now see her as "not ready" which is different from not experienced. True she has executive experience which does make her fully qualified for the office however she failed to impress on the undecided the confidence she is "presidential" especially with the challenges facing the next administration.
 

monk

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You don't really have to know a lot to draw in single issue voters.
The anti-intellectualism of the conservative movement has peaked (hopefully) with Sarah Palin. you betcha!
 

just-want-peace

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monk said:
You don't really have to know a lot to draw in single issue voters.
The anti-intellectualism of the conservative movement has peaked (hopefully) with Sarah Palin. you betcha!
Care to be a bit more specific about the bolded part????

By that, I mean don't be so general so as not to let your audience know EXACTLY what you are referring to.

And I sure hope it's something more than the D talking points. (IE "The Rs will make grandma eat dog food", or "the Rs are going to take away grandpa's social security check", or "Bush lied - peopled died", etc. )

I'm being somewhat specific because us anti-intellectualists need to keep things simple.

Thank you for your valuable time and effort!!:rolleyes:
 

LeBuick

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monk said:
You don't really have to know a lot to draw in single issue voters.
The anti-intellectualism of the conservative movement has peaked (hopefully) with Sarah Palin. you betcha!

Like I keep saying, all you need is a box of pro-life bumper stickers and you too can be the Republican front runner. Heck, I'd throw in some key chains for free.
 

LadyEagle

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Since when is being pro-life reduced to bumper stickers and key chains? Human life is worth more than that to most people here.
 

monk

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Bro. Curtis said:
I guess LeBuick doesn't think a child is a child, until it can apply for welfare.

That was low.
Just because someone doesn't vote for a party that claims a lot and does nothing about the problem of abortion; this does not mean they are pro-choice.
What have the elected republican officials done to change anything?
Abortion is still very legal.
 

Bro. Curtis

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It wasn't as low as yer anti-intellectual comment. And I'm very interested in seeing you answer the challenge put to you.

LeBuick IS pro-choice.

The republican base wants abortion stopped, it ain't stopped, and the republican base is disgusted, and is leaving the party in droves.

While the left still thinks children are disposable.

Who's better ?
 

LeBuick

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Bro. Curtis said:
LeBuick IS pro-choice. ?

LeBuick is against personally aborting a fetus or potential life but believes that is my personal choice. I have not and will not pay or participate in an abortion. I can't control what others do in their lives and believe even if it were illegal it would still take place. It would be done in ways not safe to the pregnanat mother and would be performed in back allies and other non-sterilized places. Endangering two is not a good cure for for abortions. I furthermore believe life begins at birth which is a discussion we've had many times so I won't go in to here.


Bro. Curtis said:
Who's better ?

I guess that depends on which side you stand on...

The view is always different from the other side of the fence.
 

jilphn1022

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Well stated....

LadyEagle said:
Since when is being pro-life reduced to bumper stickers and key chains? Human life is worth more than that to most people here.

I am in full agreement with you

and I believe the Bible and it's Author would approve
of this post by LadyEagle....
 

LeBuick

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jilphn1022 said:
I am in full agreement with you

and I believe the Bible and it's Author would approve
of this post by LadyEagle....

I would agree also if that was the only page in the Good Book. I try and consider the entire word of God which is inclusive or more that just Abortion.


LE... You left out the word VOTE. I said your vote can be had for a bumper sticker. It goes along with being a single issue voter.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I love it.

Rezko, Wright, Ayers, taxes, ACORN, Hateful Michelle, Pakistan, and you call us "one issue voters".

If the one issue is we think Obama is a fraud, then you are right.
 

LeBuick

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Bro. Curtis said:
I love it.

Rezko, Wright, Ayers, taxes, ACORN, Hateful Michelle, Pakistan, and you call us "one issue voters".

If the one issue is we think Obama is a fraud, then you are right.

Those aren't issues, they are distractions from the issues.

Michelle hateful??? Wow...
 

LadyEagle

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Bro. Curtis said:
So you are pro-choice. I had it nailed.

Yep, you did. :tear: Sad.

Sarah Palin may not be perfect, but at least she lives her pro-life position by not aborting her Downs syndrome baby.
 
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Bro. Curtis

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LeBuick said:
Those aren't issues, they are distractions from the issues.

Michelle hateful??? Wow...
No, they are issues. His training & mentoring from those people come out of his and his America hating wife, every time he or she opens his or her mouth.

One issue voter my foot.
 

JustChristian

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LadyEagle said:
Yep, you did. Sarah Palin may not be perfect, but at least she lives her pro-life position by not aborting her Downs syndrome baby.


She chose what she has said she supports for HERSELF. She gives that same decision to other women. In other words, Palin is pro-choice.
 

LadyEagle

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BaptistBeliever said:
She chose what she has said she supports for HERSELF. She gives that same decision to other women. In other words, Palin is pro-choice.

Feel free to believe what you want to believe to assuage your conscience.
 

LeBuick

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Bro. Curtis said:
No, they are issues.

Only if you make them an issue.

Bro. Curtis said:
His training & mentoring from those people come out of his and his America hating wife, every time he or she opens his or her mouth.

One issue voter my foot.

You must mean ACORN, that was 13 years ago when he assisted with training some of their workers. You think those people are still there? You think they still use his material? It was obvious the canvassers weren't following anyones training, they were their own free enterprise.
 
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