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SBC decades of sexual abuse revealed in investigation

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Davyboy

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I wonder if the same people who clamor for the shut down of the Catholic Church will be the same ones clamoring for the shut down of the Baptist church. Wonder if they will demand that the Baptist church hold a garage sale of anything of value in their churches? Call for the execution of the perpetrators? Accuse anyone who follows the Baptist denomination of being a "blind sheep" manipulated by a major religion or accuse them of being perverts themselves?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/reli...igation/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bb71de992829
 
Rob_BW

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Read that the other day.

I work in the DoD, an organization that says even one sexual assault is too many. And they're right. But thinking that a multi-million member organization will ever neet that standard is madness.

So it comes down to rates of abuse and how they're handled, in my opinion.
 
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Davyboy said:
I wonder if the same people who clamor for the shut down of the Catholic Church will be the same ones clamoring for the shut down of the Baptist church. Wonder if they will demand that the Baptist church hold a garage sale of anything of value in their churches? Call for the execution of the perpetrators? Accuse anyone who follows the Baptist denomination of being a "blind sheep" manipulated by a major religion or accuse them of being perverts themselves?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/reli...igation/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bb71de992829
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"Baptist" is not a demonination. There in lies your problem.
 
Jerome

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Walter

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Revmitchell said:
"Baptist" is not a demonination. There in lies your problem.
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American Baptist claim they are a denomination
Jerome said:
SBC admission from last year:

SBC Apologizes for "Failures Within Our Own Denomination" to Protect the Abused
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Been going on with their knowledge for.many years. Only an apology when their scum-bag clergy are caught with their hand down the pants of innocent children and years of cover ups are exposed to the public. Websites like StopBaptistPredators.org have been around for years. However, one Baptist on this board asserts that Catholics created this site and the charges are all fabricated to take heat off Catholics. He has accused the Catholics of doing this without one scintilla of evidence to support it. He is just butt hurt his church has so many predatory ministers making.a mockery of the gospel.
 
Walter

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Ladies and gentlemen, after years of working in the school system with abuse children, I guarantee you this is the tip of the iceburg. There will be many, many abused Baptist children with the strength to come forward and hopefully sue these chuches and their protected child molesting pastors into bankruptcy and close their doors for good!
 
Salty

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Salty said:
Denominations

# 4 from link: a religious organization whose congregations are united in their adherence to its beliefs and practices

Yes, each local Baptist church (notice small "c") but we are united as a Rope of Sand in our doctrine.

We are under no obligation to any National, State or local Baptist group.
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Forgot to mention that just as a local church can leave such a fellowship -
the National/State/local fellowship can also withdraw fellowship.

Excellent example --- Within our local association - a church had just called a new pastor.
Not too long after - the pastor divorced his wife and married a lady from the church.
The DOM went to see the pastor - and then the church. The pastor refused to resign
and the church refused to boot the pastor.
Well, as stated before - we could not make the church get rid of there pastor.
But the Association then decided to withdraw fellowship from that church.

A couple of years later - the church disbanded.
 
Wesley Briggman

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Baptist churches I am familiar with have made the choice to associate with organizations (ABC, SBC, GARB, etc.) primarily for the purpose of missionary programs. It is not practical for a small congregation to undertake such a task. Each church contributes on a regular basis to support the organization and its missionary program.

I would be greatly surprised if any of the member churches would consider themselves to be a member of a denomination.

The organization has no say as to how the member churches run their business or any control over their pastoral staff.

Likewise, I am surprised that the SBC invoked the term "denomination" in there resolution addressing abuse.

Southern Baptist Convention > On Abuse

"WHEREAS, We deplore, apologize, and ask for forgiveness for failures to protect the abused, failures that have occurred in evangelical churches and ministries, including such failures within our own denomination; and"
 
Salty

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Zog Has-fallen said:
"But instead of ensuring that sexual predators were kept at bay, the Southern Baptist Convention resisted policy changes, the newspapers found."

Could it be that Southern Baptists are in denial?
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The SBC as all Baptist groups call their own pastors - the pastors are not assigned by the SBC. It is the responsiblity of the local
church to do a background check on pastors. The only possible exception would be be home missionaries who are with the Home mission board.
 
HankD

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Sexual abuse of children in a church venue (actually ANY venue) is INEXCUSABLE!

Matthew 13
47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
 
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Walter

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Wesley Briggman said:
Two Catholic cardinals say 'homosexuality' is to blame for sexual abuse committed by priests | Daily Mail Online
Is this the defense they took in the confessional?
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No, they would be breaking the seal of the confessional
I wonder how many of Baptist pastors diddling children while begging the children and threatening to keep silent 'for Jesus sake" are closeted homosexuals with wives and children to cover their phoney ministry. Just how many scum bag Baptist pastors are really hoisting the bible in the pulpit inviting people to come to 'Jeez-us are Baptists hiding and covering for? The numbers keep multipling each day. Baptists cover ups have been going on for years. What plans do Baptists have to purge these phoney clergy from their pulpits. No doubt the media exposing the molesters will be blamed on Catholics 'attempting to deflect their past son's on poor innocent 'bible believing' Baptists pastors. What hypocrisy!
 
Walter

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Wesley Briggman said:
Baptist churches I am familiar with have made the choice to associate with organizations (ABC, SBC, GARB, etc.) primarily for the purpose of missionary programs. It is not practical for a small congregation to undertake such a task. Each church contributes on a regular basis to support the organization and its missionary program.

I would be greatly surprised if any of the member churches would consider themselves to be a member of a denomination.

The organization has no say as to how the member churches run their business or any control over their pastoral staff.

Likewise, I am surprised that the SBC invoked the term "denomination" in there resolution addressing abuse.

Southern Baptist Convention > On Abuse

"WHEREAS, We deplore, apologize, and ask for forgiveness for failures to protect the abused, failures that have occurred in evangelical churches and ministries, including such failures within our own denomination; and"
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Southern Baptist (according to your own quote in their apology,)acknowledge they indeed constitute a denomination. So do American Baptist. So I tend to believe their own choice in the matter. The two denominations make up a large segment of people who claim to belong to a Baptist denominations . The overwhelming majority of the public would describe them as denominations as well.
 
HankD

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Walter said:
No, they would be breaking the seal of the confessional
I wonder how many of Baptist pastors diddling children while begging the children and threatening to keep silent 'for Jesus sake" are closeted homosexuals with wives and children to cover their phony ministry. Just how many scum bag Baptist pastors are really hoisting the bible in the pulpit inviting people to come to 'Jeez-us are Baptists hiding and covering for? The numbers keep multiplying each day. Baptists cover ups have been going on for years. What plans do Baptists have to purge these phony clergy from their pulpits. No doubt the media exposing the molesters will be blamed on Catholics 'attempting to deflect their past son's on poor innocent 'bible believing' Baptists pastors. What hypocrisy!
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When He comes to gather in His church, He will take care of business.

Matthew 13
49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Although Lord we would like it now - Please protect our wives and little ones.
Please reveal the wolves in sheep's clothing.
 
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