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[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Luter mentioned politics. But of course you would know that if you had actually read the entire article in the link of the op. It is right there in the first paragraph.

Diana Chandler, the BP reporter, used the word "politics" in her first paragraph, not Luter. Nearly as I can tell, the use of the word by Luter was the bare mentione it received in the portion of his address quoted by Zaac in post #3.

My point, perhaps poorly presented, is that your mention of Luter's support of the Great Pretender is not germane to the discussion of his address to the SBC executive committee. His support of the Great Pretender is not germane to his position as SBC president. Your comment was uncalled for and irrelevant, turning as it did his very valid point regarding the need to preach the Word over all other messages in church Sunday morning into an indictment of his support for the man in the White House. So what? That doesn't matter here.

It was totally unnecessary to bring it up, because in light of the subject matter it had nothing to do with the address, and it did derail the thread. So now I'm done here. I'm simply trying to present a concept to you for your consideration, and if you don't want to consider it, fine. That doesn't call for a defense of your post. Good day.

 

[Zaac]

You were the first one to mention politics, in post #13, though Zaac touched on it and probably started the thread derail you completed by connecting Luter with Obama. Neither was applicable. It wasn't necessary for either you to bring up those subjects. They aren't germane to the discussion, and detract from the very valid point Luter made. But thanks for playing.

I was actually attempting to connect the correctness of Luter's comments by showing a series of things that we do in the church. I mentioned with abortion, gays and other Christian values in a list of things we will applaud while acting like mice at the mention of the name of Jesus and that He saves.

 

[Yeshua1]

Nothing but pure silliness. You've never read anything wher I have said that homosexual sex acts were anything but sinful. You have heard me say that we need to stop making hem and other certain sinners modern day pariahs.

We need to make a stand as the Body of Christ to not tolerate this lifestyle as being accepted, as they are just acting out "as God amde them to be!" The Church is caving into this agenda, and its time to make a stand here and now!

who asked the church to condone it?Truth is that unless it is taking place within the church, speaking of it from the pulpit outside of what Scripture says really doesn't do much other than manifest this us against them scenario that those outside the church already think exists. So why affirm that?

Entire demoninations are now OK it, by ordaining practicing gays/Lesbians, and accepting that as mormal behaviour!

You get labeled as that because the face of "we don't like Blacks, Hispanics,gays, pro-abortion, drug addicts, Democrat, liberal,etc, etc" is the face that the evangelical church with the help of the media has painted for itself.

No, the real truth is that we stand against stuff like illegal immigration, abortion, gay rights etc, and the liberal culture and media despises taking godly stands!

If the church mentioned the bad policy and then made a beeline to the Cross and showed why Jesus Christ and His love are the answer instead of going on and on and on about how we can't stand a President and his policies, perhaps folks wouldn't associate us with hate and all things negative?

You mean like "stay quiet"ike the OT prophets did? They thundered against evel acts in high places!

And as is the case on this board, unless someone says focus on his policies, the comments are ABOUT him. Just look at mitchell's comments

How can the comments NOT be about him though, as He is the one that keep shoving out how he is a Christian, yet contridicts that every chance he gets?

Sure is. But that's not unique to "black churches" ( I hate the terms black church/white church).

Yes, but the Black church has failed on the whole to address it, as more Blacks are killed by it pproportionally than any others, and yet many of the pulpits are in bed with liberal Democrats, and toe the companyline!

Does your church go along with the gluttons?
Does your church kick out those who don't tithe and thus steal from God?

The church is ripe with hypocrisy across the board.

But that's what happens when we focus on issues and not the love of Christ and that leading to our love for others.

We must confront sin, and yet can still love others!

you cannot pit one against the other, for God is BOTH judgement and mercy!

 

[preacher4truth]

I happen to agree with what Lutzer said.

 

[blackbird]

If MISS KAY knew where these posts were headed----she'd come in here and snatch every preacher on the BB baldheaded!!!!!!

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[preacher4truth]

One, I think that's a load of horse hockey, not because of its truth or lack thereof, but because of its misplaced emphasis. Two, I think you have passed judgment on Luter based on politics and not theology, and that is not how we are to judge a pastor. I've heard Luter preach -- he came to my church in May -- and his is theologically sound and biblically based. 'Nuf said. Don't care what his politics is or whether he publicly supports the Great Pretender or not. He doesn't preach politics from the pulpit, he preaches Christ.

Amen, and that he does and he does well.

revmitchell is way off track in his accusations -- and seems unremittingly angry about one thing or another.

 

[go2church]

We must confront sin, and yet can still love others!

you cannot pit one against the other, for God is BOTH judgement and mercy!

We aren't told to judge, in fact we are told to do the opposite of judge, love.

 

[Zaac]

We aren't told to judge, in fact we are told to do the opposite of judge, love.

We are indeed told to judge, but to do so righteously. We are to judge within the church. Doing so outside the church other than for the purpose of helping someone to understand that they are a sinner in need of a Savior really serves no purpose as they are unredeemed sinners doing what unredeemed sinners are supposed to do.

Our righteous judgment is intended to keep the lighthouse on the hill shining brightly.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

We aren't told to judge, in fact we are told to do the opposite of judge, love.

1 Corinthians, NASB
1 Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints?
2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts?
3 Do you not know that we will judge angels ? How much more matters of this life?​

Both, not just "love." 'Nuf said? Thought so ...

 

[Yeshua1]

1 Corinthians, NASB
1 Does any one of you, when he has a case against his neighbor, dare to go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints?
2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts?
3 Do you not know that we will judge angels ? How much more matters of this life?​

Both, not just "love." 'Nuf said? Thought so ...

The Bible states that we are to love others, but also to rightly judge, as if we had for example a lesbian couple attending who were getting "married" should show them what the Bible states about that relationship!

 

[Yeshua1]

We aren't told to judge, in fact we are told to do the opposite of judge, love.

jesus said tojudge wiself/rightly, for by their fruits you shall know them!