SBTS Chapel: Avoid Labels

[Rippon]

Uh no it is you who do not understand.

You and your uhs. There must be a better way for you to communicate besides grunting. ;-)

 

[Rippon]

Am i obligated to continue and unending back and forth on this board until a cavlinist decides we are done so that I an not accused of turn tail and run?

What is a cavlinist? Is it a member of a group which studies clavicles?

 

[agedman]

From a Southern Seminary chapel this Spring:

"Our sermons should never smack of parties - Anglican, Calvinist, Amillennial - rather our sermons should be obviously Biblical....avoiding labels, sticking with the text....so the powerful attraction becomes not membership in your party, but faithfulness to God's Word and its truth."

mp3 link

One can understand the advice to tone down the Calvinism and the Amillennialism (it's SBTS after all) but...the Anglicanism? Why would that be an issue for Baptist seminarians?

Aren’t Anglicans hyper-Calvinistic?

No mention of the typical Arm. stuff which can’t find enough Scripture to be supported? Is that why they don’t like labels?


Look if one is going to start listing labels, one should at least label them self.

 

[Jerome]

FYI The preacher who said that at SBTS was Mark Dever LOL

 

[agedman]

FYI The preacher who said that at SBTS was Mark Dever LOL

Must be a good man.

Few calvists agree with me, fewer typical free willers, and even fewer modernist intoxicant filled dance around worshipers.

 

[agedman]

You and your uhs. There must be a better way for you to communicate besides grunting. ;-)

Hey!!!

Leave him alone.

Weren’t you taught in school that people conduct themselves the best they know how in every situation?

 

[HankD]

Labels - Necessary evils, but necessary nonetheless.

Somewhere in the science of language (linguistics) There must be a body of wisdom which discerns when words become labels and often take on a pejorative nuance..

e.g. dispensationalist, fundamentalist, charismatic...


HankD

 

[agedman]

You and your uhs. There must be a better way for you to communicate besides grunting. ;-)

Hey!!!

Leave him alone.

Weren’t you taught in school that people conduct themselves the best they know how in every situation?

 

[Revmitchell]

Labels can be helpful when they correctly comunicate ideas. When they are used to impose negative pajoratives then they are misused and unhelpful.

 

[Rippon]

Labels can be helpful when they correctly comunicate ideas. When they are used to impose negative pajoratives then they are misused and unhelpful.

That's pejoratives.

 

[Rippon]

Aren’t Anglicans hyper-Calvinistic?

You have to be either joking or terribly misinformed.

 

[Covenanter]

I approve of the idea expressed by the OP.

As soon as one admits to a "label" one is defined by that label. Others can look it up & know exactly what one believes - especially all the negatives.

e.g. I do not use the terms -
baptist - all churches practice the baptism of converts, & there are many very faithful Christians down the ages who practice infant baptism. I am not a member of a Baptist denomination;

Calvinist - because one is denounced as a follower of Calvin - I prefer to use Reformed;

I use, but don't like the term Partial Preterist in discussions, because misunderstanding can be guaranteed.

 

[HankD]

Aren’t Anglicans hyper-Calvinistic?

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It's been known to happen with Anglicans loyal to the CoE.

HankD

 

[Salty]

...e.g. I do not use the terms -
baptist - all churches practice the baptism of converts, & there are many very faithful Christians down the ages who practice infant baptism. I am not a member of a Baptist denomination; ...

Uh - you have just labeled Baptists - as a denomination.
The ONLY way we can be considered a denomination is that we have some similar beliefs.

BUT - there is NO Baptist Headquarters for any Baptist church* as we are all independent and autonomous.

The best way to describe Baptists is that we are a "Rope of Sand".

* please note - I did capitalize "Baptist" but NOT "church" as there is no "Baptist Church"

 

[Salty]

Added a paragraph to post # 34

 

[Rippon]

It's been known to happen with Anglicans loyal to the CoE.

HankD

Please furnish some examples. names please. I know Church History a good deal and what you've said doesn't add up.

 

[HankD]

Please furnish some examples. names please. I know Church History a good deal and what you've said doesn't add up.

I don't know of any myself - see this article and the responses:

They aren't mutually exclusive. There are quite a few Calvinist (Reformed) Anglicans. The Reformed Episcopal Church is a good example of such a denomination.

Another :

Something I have realised over the years is that labels mean different things to different people in different places. In answer to your question in your OP, I would say “it depends” on what you mean by the term ‘Catholic’. If you mean it as it is defined in the Apostle Creed, meaning Universal, then I would say yes we are catholic and reformed. However if the term catholic implies thatthe Anglican Church is reformed Catholicism (the middle way between Rome and Geneva),then I disagree. The Anglican Church is protestant and reformed, and the via media is more accurately described as a via media between Martin Luther’s Wittenberg and John Calvin’s Geneva.

Not trying to start an argument, I am just a fellow Anglican Priest from Australia offering a view.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-between-Calvinism-and-Anglicanism

HankD

 

[Rippon]

I don't know of any myself - see this article and the responses:



Another :



https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-differences-between-Calvinism-and-Anglicanism

HankD

Your links said nothing about the Church of England in part or in whole being hyper-Calvinistic.

You just might as well admit that that charge has no basis in fact.

A former mod on the BB made the charge that Prebyterians and Reformed Baptists are hyper-Calvinists --("swallowed up in hyper-Calvinism")--and that is just as foolish of an accusation.

 

[HankD]

Your links said nothing about the Church of England in part or in whole being hyper-Calvinistic.

You just might as well admit that that charge has no basis in fact.

A former mod on the BB made the charge that Prebyterians and Reformed Baptists are hyper-Calvinists --("swallowed up in hyper-Calvinism")--and that is just as foolish of an accusation.

I retract nothing.

HankD

 

[Rippon]

I retract nothing.

HankD

LOL!

It's good to be persistent when you actually have some proof. Yet you have nothing, and in that you will rest.