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Scalafari: Pope Told Me Jesus Incarnate was a Man...not God

InTheLight

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In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis' longtime atheist friend and interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari, claims that the Pope told him that once Jesus Christ became incarnate, he was a man, a "man of exceptional virtues" but "not at all a God."

According to the highly respected Catholic blog, Rorate Caeli, and Radio Spada in Italy, Scalfari states in the Oct. 9 edition of La Repubblica (behind paywall) the following: "Those who, as it has happened many times with me, have had the luck of meeting him and speaking to him with the greatest cultural intimacy, know that Pope Francis conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate."

"Once incarnate, Jesus stops being a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross."

Scalfari continues, "When I had the chance of discussing these sentences, Pope Francis told me: 'They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'"

Scalfari: Pope Francis Told Me That Jesus Incarnate Was a 'Man ... Not at All a God'
 

simon

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There is alot of false teaching in the Church these days that tries to humanise Jesus and deify man but I have not seen it put like that before. Here's Bill Johnson's quotes on the matter
“He laid his [sic] divinity aside as He sought to fulfill the assignment given to Him by the Father: to live life as a man without sin…The sacrifice that could atone for sin had to be a lamb, (powerless), and had to be spotless, (without sin).” (When Heaven Invades Earth, p85)

“Jesus Christ said of Himself, ‘The Son can do nothing.’…He had NO supernatural capabilities whatsoever! …He performed miracles, wonders, and signs, as a man in right relationship to God…not as God.” (When Heaven Invades Earth, p29)

“…Jesus had no ability to heal the sick. He couldn’t cast out devils, and He had no ability to raise the dead. He said of Himself in John 5:19, ‘the Son can do nothing of Himself.’ He had set aside His divinity. He did miracles as man in right relationship with God because He was setting forth a model for us…Jesus so emptied Himself that He was incapable of doing what was required of Him by the Father – without the Father’s help…” (The Supernatural Power of a Transformed Mind p.50)

“While Jesus is eternally God, He emptied Himself of His divine powers and became a man (see Phil. 2:7). It’s vital to note that He did all His miracles as a man, not as God”. (Charisma Magazine)
But despite his heretical theology he does frequently state Jesus was 100% God and 100% man.
BTW your link to the article now has a rebuttal saying the pope never said this.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis' longtime atheist friend and interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari, claims that the Pope told him that once Jesus Christ became incarnate, he was a man, a "man of exceptional virtues" but "not at all a God."

According to the highly respected Catholic blog, Rorate Caeli, and Radio Spada in Italy, Scalfari states in the Oct. 9 edition of La Repubblica (behind paywall) the following: "Those who, as it has happened many times with me, have had the luck of meeting him and speaking to him with the greatest cultural intimacy, know that Pope Francis conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate."

"Once incarnate, Jesus stops being a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross."

Scalfari continues, "When I had the chance of discussing these sentences, Pope Francis told me: 'They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'"

Scalfari: Pope Francis Told Me That Jesus Incarnate Was a 'Man ... Not at All a God'
Oh no! :D Well if that’s true(and how can you believe an atheist) :Sneaky
 

Adonia

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This "reporter" has said things before that the Pope said something when he really didn't say it. This man is an atheist, an ex-Catholic with an axe to grind. Why Pope Francis continues to allow this man to interview him despite his earlier lies is beyond me.
 

rsr

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Apparently Scalafari hasn't interviewed Francis in some time; he just drags up remembrances for his scoops. It doesn't help the 95-year-old Scalafari's credibility that he refuses to take notes.
 

Adonia

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Apparently Scalafari hasn't interviewed Francis in some time; he just drags up remembrances for his scoops. It doesn't help the 95-year-old Scalafari's credibility that he refuses to take notes.

He's 95? Well, that explains some things. Joe Biden at 76 has been showing his faulty memory all the time of late.
 
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