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Screens and Hymnals

robycop3

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Nonsense. What would you think if someone wrote, "If God didn't want us to commit adultery to have sex, we couldn't do it; that simple." Or, "If God didn't want us to baptize babies into the covenant of God, we couldn't do it; that simple."
Not at all. God doesn't want us using animal blood for transfusions, so we can't.
 

evenifigoalone

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Not all of these songs are off-the-wall. Many are spiritual and contain proper theology.

I'd rather sing "This I Believe" or "10,000 Reasons" from a screen than "God of Earth and Outer Space" from the hymnal.

I think some of you who despise songs not in the hymnal haven't heard a lot of them - only the outliers. And there are outliers in the hymn book.

It's just a preference, folks. And some of you here are marching to a King James Only like attitude when it comes to music and technology.
When I think of all You are, I have no words
for Your greatness it outshines a thousand suns
And I think of how You love, so undeserved
there's no darkness that your light can't overcome
How great a love He has for us
Though my sins they be as scarlet
though my hands have been an enemy of God
Though my heart has played the harlot
You gave me more than I deserve
when You washed my whole world as white as snow

Scarlet, by Disciple
 

InTheLight

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Just because you asked.
I changed my avatar.
This is me--the real me.
Sitting on a log with my dog.


:)

For those reading this after the avatar change, Just_Ahead's previous avatar was Charles Spurgeon sitting at a desk working on a laptop.
 

InTheLight

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Hymnals - one time cost
Music license, ect continuous payment

Hymnals: 400 songs, of which about 25 of them are ever used, 20 if you exclude Christmas hymns.

Screen: No constraints on which songs can be used. Entire library of Christian music available, public domain and under license.
 

Reformed

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Can we argue about the color of the carpet next?

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rlvaughn

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Hymnals: 400 songs, of which about 25 of them are ever used, 20 if you exclude Christmas hymns.

Screen: No constraints on which songs can be used. Entire library of Christian music available, public domain and under license.
Out of curiosity, I wonder how many different songs are ever used by most churches who have screens?
Can we argue about the color of the carpet next
Red carpet, by all means the color of the carpet should be red, to match the padding in the wood pews.
Yes, red, of course. Not sure why Reformed would even question that. I am beginning to wonder about him.
 

tyndale1946

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Sinclair Ferguson would take issue with that. He says the only Worship Leader is Christ.

Well if you're going to use a screen, I might as well sit down... You don't need a song leader... You brethren take away from the simplicity of worship... Never had a church bulletin... Worship was spontaneous!... Song sung were according to the mood of the church... Most of the time the congregation, picked what they wanted to hear, opened up their hymnals and shouted out a number... Then we sung it... Acapella!.. Simplicity... The preacher preached what he felt the church needed, he didn't prepare a sermon but was prepared to preach what the Lord laid on his heart... Notes?... His notes were scripture!... Simplicity... Singing, praying, preaching!... Just like our Baptist forefathers way before us... Give me that old time religion!... Brother Glen:)
 
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Just_Ahead

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... Never had a church bulletin... Worship was spontaneous!... Song sung were according to the mood of the church... Most of the time the congregation, picked what they wanted to hear, opened up their hymnals and shouted out a number... Then we sung it... Acapella!.. Simplicity... The preacher preached what he felt the church needed, he didn't prepare a sermon but was prepared to preach what the Lord laid on his heart... Notes?... His notes were scripture!... Simplicity... Singing, praying, preaching!... Just like our Baptist forefathers way before us... Give me that old time religion!... Brother Glen:)

Used to attend a church where the congregational mood was something like ...

"That church across the road is plumb dried up!
Why, they even print a bulletin every week.
Whatever happened to hymn numbers posted on a hymn board?"

 

Jerome

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Did y'all see that not having bulletins is among the things criticized in the OP article:

Why Churches Should Ditch Projector Screens And Bring Back Hymnals

"Informality at Church Is Increasing....Between 1998 and 2012, congregations that used choirs in worship decreased from 54 to 45 percent; those using organs dropped from 53 to 42 percent....churches printing bulletins fell from 72 to 62 percent....Informality in worship is way up (shouting 'Amen')....It’s hard to find many churches that haven’t bowed at least one knee to the modern, informal trend."
 

evenifigoalone

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I don't see where technology and the use of it has anything to do with old time religion. Nor should it. The focus should be in doctrine, not what tools we use

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rlvaughn

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The churches I've been in have never "bowed the knee" to the not-so-modern trend to print church bulletins.
 

Just_Ahead

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"Informality at Church Is Increasing....Between 1998 and 2012, congregations that used choirs in worship decreased from 54 to 45 percent; those using organs dropped from 53 to 42 percent....churches printing bulletins fell from 72 to 62 percent....Informality in worship is way up (shouting 'Amen')....It’s hard to find many churches that haven’t bowed at least one knee to the modern, informal trend."

What do these trends really mean?
 

Salty

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Used to attend a church where the congregational mood was something like ...

"That church across the road is plumb dried up!
Why, they even print a bulletin every week.
Whatever happened to hymn numbers posted on a hymn board?"


Then you must be in a liberal church - that board is for attendence!!!:Biggrin :Speechless
 

Salty

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Hymnals: 400 songs, of which about 25 of them are ever used, 20 if you exclude Christmas hymns. ...

Actually, I am careful about using the same hymns over and over - Prior to my coming , there were 2 or 3 folks who almost every week, would say - "Lets sing the Pastors favorite song - 'The Old Rugged Cross' and they would so do."
Myself, I select the hymns for each week and try to get ones that pertain to the message. At the moment, we do not have a music director, but once we do - then the hymns will be his responsibility

One last note: We had a pastor down in Texas - each week we would sing one song in order from the book. ie week 1 - # 1,

week 2 song # 2, week 3, song # 3 ..... ect...
 

Jerome

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Carpet???
What carpet?

[pdf] The ‘Gold Standard’ of the Wiregrass Primitive Baptists of Georgia: A History of the Crawford Faction of the Alabaha River Primitive Baptist Association, 1842-2007

"While other Primitive Baptist Churches...have begun to use brick, mortar, carpet, and other modern construction techniques, Crawfordite churches remain exactly as they would have appeared over a century ago. They are still fashioned from unfinished pine, with no electricity, carpet, or running water."
 
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