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Senate Filibuster Rule

Van

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Our federal Senate has a rule that says certain types of legislation may have "unlimited debate" unless cloture is invoked by 60 votes. This was a well intended rule to promote bi-partisan support for legislation. However, over time Political Parties have established power over the members such that if the Minority Leader in the Senate says all in his Party must vote against a bill, a 60 vote threshold is seldom or never reached.

Over time, as our national population has grown, but with the federal legislature fixed by rule at 535 members (two for each state in the Senate, and and the number of House representative districts fixed at 435 since 1913. But the number of voters in each state or district has continued to increase in general. Thus the "money" needed to effectively campaign for office is more that most office holders can afford. They depend of their Party providing funds or likely donors. You go along with your Party or your next election may be inadequately funded. So we have Party line votes.

The result of the party line vote pattern and the existing filibuster rule results in Minority Rule, rather than the Majority rule as required in a functional democracy. Now the votes of the minority that elected the minority Party override the votes of the majority.

It looks like the rule will be eliminated when the minority party takes control, as they would NOT allow minority rule once they have the power to control the rule. But the majority party Senate leadership says they do NOT have the 51 votes to eliminate the rule.

Time will tell....
 

Van

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I have no problem with a REAL filibuster! To be a REAL filibuster, a Senator must physically be speaking at all times.
However, under current rules - a leader only needs to announce a filibuster - with NO speeches.
That is a bunch of hogwash.
Lets get back to a REAL filibuster.
Remember "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington"
The current Senate leader chose NOT to impose the "real filibuster" allowing minority rule without any difficulty. RINO anyone?
 

Foxmeister

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Let's face the facts that neither party works for the betterment of this country and its people. Instead, it's nothing more than a contest between both parties to see who has the most power. Congress has been ineffective for the last 30 years.
 

Salty

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Let's face the facts that neither party works for the betterment of this country and its people. Instead, it's nothing more than a contest between both parties to see who has the most power. Congress has been ineffective for the last 30 years.
I think both parties are at least somewhat concerned. BUT it is how they think is the best result.
For example - Some people may need help with the purchase of food.
One party wants responsibilities - ie no soda or candy when using SNAP
Another party says let anyone buy what they want (even if it is not nuturinial)
 

Foxmeister

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I think both parties are at least somewhat concerned. BUT it is how they think is the best result.
For example - Some people may need help with the purchase of food.
One party wants responsibilities - ie no soda or candy when using SNAP
Another party says let anyone buy what they want (even if it is not nuturinial)
Now Trump wants to $1.5 trillion for defense spending along with cutting domestic programs. Medicare would be one of those programs on the chopping block.
 

Salty

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COTUS specifically states defense is a responsibility of the federal govt.
Per the 10th Amendment -Medicaid belongs to the State/Commonwealth
though we have contributed to Medicare
 

Foxmeister

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COTUS specifically states defense is a responsibility of the federal govt.
Per the 10th Amendment -Medicaid belongs to the State/Commonwealth
though we have contributed to Medicare
I take it you would have no problem then with the elimination of Medicare.
 
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