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Serious church concerns from online friend

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dianetavegia

Guest
I got this tonight from an online / homeschooling friend. HELP! There are so many problems here and I hope some of you can share advice. I'll make sure she sees all the replies.
Thank,
Diane

Here's the problem.
I am in a church that I've really enjoyed, but lately there have been a few problems that I've found very irritating.

1. My child is being harmed by another child in Children's Church. She called it to my attention, and I spoke with the child's mother, then with the teachers. The situation still is not resolved, and my daughter at times walks out of the class with bruises, or asking me to retrieve personal items the child has stolen, or near tears because the child was taunting her. When she tells the teacher's what is going on they do not help, they say ok, go sit down, or find another toy, or blow her off in some way, it's not taken seriously. I've pulled her out of the class and she didn't want that, but she didn't want to be hurt and made fun of either.

2. I had a personal situation in which I needed someone to talk to. I'd never gone to the pastor or his wife for advice before, but really needed to talk about some spiritual issues and most of all have someone listen who could understand and pray with me. I turned to the pastors wife and never really got to address any issues. I got a few basics in, and the next thing I knew she was giving direction on what I should do. I didn't want that. I didn't appreciate it because it wasn't even given in a sympathetic manner but it sounded like she simply wanted to give me a piece of her mind, and in the end she told me my kids should be in school and that I don't need to homeschool as I probably wasn't capable of giving them all they needed. That wasn't even part of the conversation. We didn't pray, not that I wanted to by the end of the conversation. I'm used to being challenged on the homeschooling deal, but it really hurts for it to be coming from the pastors wife and said in a way that I found degrading.

3. More and more I keep feeling like I'm in the wrong place and not fitting in. Most of the people there have money and I don't. I have physical problems that keep me from being useful in ways other than financial, so in the end I feel pretty much worthless and it doesn't help to hear the sermons on how financial support for the church is so important and how everyone should have a duty in the church or they're nothing but pew warmers, and how the pastor can't stand people like that. They say go to them and they'll find a job for you in the church, but of all the things I listed on the papers they hand out asking what your abilities are, they picked none of them and tried to have me do something I wasn't able to do.

It's to the point where I'm beginning to not want to get up on Sundays and go anymore.

The pastor isn't very approachable and apparently either is his wife, although both claim to be. The pastor always comments on how pastoring is his calling, but he hates it when people backslide and his least favorite thing to do is visit people who are slipping because he has no patience for that. Well, how is he supposed to be approachable and a decent pastor if when one of us has a spiritual problem we already know those kinds of problems irritate him and are his least favorite part about being a pastor?
 

Pastor J

New Member
Diane,

Based on the information that is in her email, I would recommend that the individual meet with the Pastor and his wife and discuss these issues. If the Pastor does not hear it, then she should find a new ministry that she can use her gifts and talents to the fullest.
 

Bro Tony

New Member
How sad. If what she says is true, she needs to run don't walk. There are pastors and churches that spiritually abuse their people. The church body should be a place of healing and edification. If you cannot approach your pastor, for whatever reason, he cannot be your pastor.

Bro Tony
 

Trotter

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"Hasta lavista" sounds like it would apply here.

There are churches on almost any corner in my neck of the woods, some good and some not. But there is more than one. She could easily bless a different congregation.

In Christ,
Trotter
 

Paul of Eugene

New Member
A church that allows a child to be abused has something very wrong with it. Find another church for the sake of the child! It is a must! And for the sake of the church, let them know why you are going elsewhere.
 

JGrubbs

New Member
I can relate with many of the issues that your friend is dealing with. My solution was to leave the fellowship where this was happening.
 

GeneMBridges

New Member
I have to agree. Physical harm has been done to a child. Add to that the fact that is was done in church. We all know from watching the harm done sexually to children in Catholic parishes the hate for Christians, Christianity, and clergy that can breed. Harm to children goes well beyond the physical! Add to that a pastor who is unapproachable and a pastor's wife that appears like she's more apt to give advice than reflect and actually help a church member work through a problem, EEEEEKKKKK!

Get away, quickly, or at least go "inactive," while you pray about it and visit other churches. Add Bible class for half an hour a day to substitute for Sunday School if possible. Even a fun Bible game could be helpful. I would also find out if there is a local association of home schoolers who are Christians. My own church here, while it does have its own Christian school, also serves as a meeting ground for home schooling parents and children; that could be very helpful too.
 

donnA

Active Member
They need a new church where their true value can be realized. She may have physical limitations, but that does not stop her from serving God. What about prayer, writting, research and compilimg facts, she homeschools, that shows she is organized and can do research and fact finding, and can probably write too.
No church should ever allow a child to injured, somethying should be done with the offending child, if they continued they should be removed from the situation to keep them from abusing other children, they return once they learn they can not do this, or the parent wants to sit in with them and assure they do not abuse.
I agree try to speak with the pastor and his wife, try and make an appointment, if this does not work or it is not well recieved if she does get to talk with them, then find a new church, this is seems abusive, and playing favorites.
 

FBCPastorsWife

New Member
Me and my husband encountered the same problem at our former church. The pastor did not visit anyone in the hospital. He didn't go on soul winning visitation and I never was able to talk to his wife.

We prayed about it and God led us away from that church. If you have a pastor that refuses to fulfill the duties of his job...he is obviously out of the will of God in that position. And a church that has a pastor like that will not flourish.

May the Lord bless you in this difficult time.
 
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dianetavegia

Guest
In just one instance, her little girl had her teeth knocked out! That's how serious the attacks were!

I agree with all of you! Oh, and the mom includes Bible studies in her children's home schooling.

Diane
 
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dianetavegia

Guest
It's awful when children are afraid to go to church because they are physically in danger and adults in charge won't step in.
 
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