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Shameful L.E. response!!

Revmitchell

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I dont care what kind of training they did or did not have, kids lives were in jeopardy they should have run in there no matter what. Bunch of pansies
 

Squire Robertsson

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The best I can say about the local LEOs is they were afraid of storming in and everyone accusing them of being Audie Murphys.
 

canadyjd

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Again, the spokesperson gave very specific details about a SRO engaging the shooter at the door, being wounded but causing him to drop a bag of ammo.

Where did that info come from? It appears to be a total fabrication at this point. If it was, all involved in the lie should be fired.

peace to you
 

Baptist Believer

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No after columbine they hide the information until they passed clint0ns pistol grip ban.
The Columbine shooting was on April 20, 1999, while the "assault(sic) weapons ban" was in 1994. Unless you are referring to a different law (may be a state law?) regarding pistol grips, I don't know what you are talking about.

Not until then were the media allowed to tell the truth that the sheriffs office made students stay in the school as the shooters were still shooting .
The Sheriff's office DID NOT make students stay in the school. That's disinformation. Students and faculty took cover and those that didn't flee the building on their own were sent out of the building as law enforcement and medical teams cleared the school campus.
 

canadyjd

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The Columbine shooting was on April 20, 1999, while the "assault(sic) weapons ban" was in 1994. Unless you are referring to a different law (may be a state law?) regarding pistol grips, I don't know what you are talking about.


The Sheriff's office DID NOT make students stay in the school. That's disinformation. Students and faculty took cover and those that didn't flee the building on their own were sent out of the building as law enforcement and medical teams cleared the school campus.
Quite frankly, any info coming from the sheriffs office is suspect in my mind until they reasonably explain the disinformation about the SRO engaging the perp at the door.

peace to you
 

Baptist Believer

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Quite frankly, any info coming from the sheriffs office is suspect in my mind until they reasonably explain the disinformation about the SRO engaging the perp at the door.
This particular statement was not intended to be in reference to the Uvalde tragedy. I believe Conan was repeating his erroneous claim that the Columbine responders forced the students to stay in the school.
 

Conan

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The Columbine shooting was on April 20, 1999, while the "assault(sic) weapons ban" was in 1994. Unless you are referring to a different law (may be a state law?) regarding pistol grips, I don't know what you are talking about.

NO you are correct. I was thinking of the assault weapon ban of 1994, which pre-dated Columbine. My mistake. Thank you for the correction.

The Sheriff's office DID NOT make students stay in the school. That's disinformation. Students and faculty took cover and those that didn't flee the building on their own were sent out of the building as law enforcement and medical teams cleared the school campus.

That is what they told me a year after it happened on either ABC or CBS. I didn't have cable back then. If I find proof I will bring it back up to you. So far the wikipedia site does support you. Is history being rewritten, or was I just mislead. I will search either way.
 

Baptist Believer

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NO you are correct. I was thinking of the assault weapon ban of 1994, which pre-dated Columbine. My mistake. Thank you for the correction.
We all make them.

That is what they told me a year after it happened on either ABC or CBS. I didn't have cable back then. If I find proof I will bring it back up to you. So far the wikipedia site does support you. Is history being rewritten, or was I just mislead. I will search either way.
Thanks.

I followed the Columbine shooting events, aftermath, and the revelations that came years after the events quite closely. I was managing security for a school at the time and we had to respond to concerned parents about the events of Columbine and the potential for the same kind of attack at our school. Many of the "facts" from the early days were wrong or misleading, and the media ran with narratives that seemed to be common sense, but they were counter-factual.

Law enforcement made all kinds of mistakes at Columbine, but keeping students in the school was definitely not one of them.
 

Wingman68

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GP reported last Tuesday evening (day of TX shooting) that the elite plain clothes BP (BORTEC) agent who killed the shooter said there were no rifles, just 9 mm gun and far less ammo than being reported all week; shooter was illegal alien from El Salvador with ties to MS13 gang; grandpa was convicted felon, so address of shooter would have revealed it was home of such=no gun sale to shooter; we know now that chief of police who stood down outside was a Demoniac donor to Beto. Remember Parkland HS in Florida and the sheriff was pictured with Dems, eventually thrown out of office? Similarities of TX to that FL event, anyone?

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BasketFinch

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Law enforcement are part of the Executive branch of government.

In 2018 Florida Deputy Scot Peterson waited outside building 12 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High and where most of the killings took place when Nikolas Cruz opened fire on unarmed kids and teachers.

The deputy later resigned.

I wonder how often LEO's at the scene of other school shootings did the same?
 

Baptist Believer

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They ran from the active shooter.
There's nothing wrong with retreating from a bad approach to undertake another, since getting cut down before you have a chance to make a difference is ineffective. But you have to regroup quickly and make another assault. There is no time for waiting to see what happens.

As someone who worked an anti-kidnapping detail for a billionaire family at a private K-12 school, I knew every day that I would be likely to take a bullet for children if we had a major incident. Before I even took the job, I processed that knowledge and was quite comfortable stepping into unknown danger as necessary. Fortunately, I only had to draw a weapon during "showdowns" on three occasions, and never had to use lethal force. But I was ready to do it and ready to face injury/death.
 
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