Shooting on Texas College Campus

[Don]

Hollis Daniels, a 19-year-old Texas Tech student, has been charged in the killing of the police officer.

Campus police brought Daniels to the campus police station after finding evidence of drugs and drug paraphernalia in his dorm room. At the station, the freshman pulled out a gun and allegedly shot an officer in the head before fleeing on foot. Daniels was later apprehended by campus police near the Lubbock Municipal Coliseum and has been charged with capital murder of a peace officer.

Texas Tech shooter was too young to have gun under campus carry law, police say

Reason I bring up this thread, in relation to the recent Las Vegas shooting:

A Texas law letting students carry firearms on college campuses did not contribute to the fatal shooting Monday of a Texas Tech police officer....

Under Texas’ recently implemented campus carry law, Daniels was too young to even possess a handgun in the state – let alone on a college campus. Signed by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott in 2015 and going into effect in August 2016, the campus carry law mirrors state policy that stipulates that applicants for a concealed carry permit must be at least 21 years old and have no felony convictions, among other conditions.

Laws are in place. Daniels violated those laws. Since they can't determine how he obtained the weapon, a ban on guns wouldn't have stopped him.

Emotion about gun control meets harsh reality.

 

[KenH]

There are 300,000,000 million guns in the United States. The United States has always been a violent society.

The bloviating by both sides on the gun issue meets harsh reality.

 

[Revmitchell]

The fact that Americans own guns is not evidence hat we have a violent society.

 

[KenH]

Reading the history of the United States up to the present day is evidence we have a violent society.

 

[Revmitchell]

Every society has its share of violence. However in the US the areas where gun laws are the strongest the violence mirrors it.

 

[KenH]

States with more restrictions on acquiring a gun cannot ban guns purchased in states with less restrictions on acquiring a gun. I refuse to be cavalier about violence in our society. Being a Christian, I cannot do so.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

It has nothing to do with you being a Christian.

 

[Alcott]

This has been a violent society since before colonization. After colonization began, England shipped many criminals away to its colonies, with the excuse that is one reason for colonization. From that time onward, we have had a significant fraction of criminals among us-- certainly higher than the UK and most other European countries. Indian raids, slave rebellions, lynchings and other mob actions have been a part of our history which left us with a disposition toward violence.

 

[KenH]

It has nothing to do with you being a Christian.

I thank God that my entire life has to do with me being a Christian.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Especially when you can’t back up what you’re saying.

To say people are cavalier about violence because they disagree with you ? Nothing to do with Christianity.

 

[KenH]

I think Christianity has to do with everything. It is the worldview that I observe everything from.

I think it is cavalier to try to negate a point about the United States being a violent society by pointing out that other societies have violence, too.

 

[Don]

I think Christianity has to do with everything. It is the worldview that I observe everything from.

As do most, if not all, of us.

I think it is cavalier to try to negate a point about the United States being a violent society by pointing out that other societies have violence, too.

Pish posh. By trying to create such a point, one implies that other societies are not violent. Acknowledging that other societies are violent, too, doesn't negate your point; it merely places it in perspective for proper comparison.

 

[TCassidy]

Reading the history of the United States up to the present day is evidence we have a violent society.

Nope. The "history" is the "wild west" is a product of Hollywood. In point of fact the US has a very good history when it comes to violence. Don't believe everything you hear from the media talking heads.

 

[TCassidy]

I thank God that my entire life has to do with me being a Christian.

As is true of all of us. Do not imply other's lives are not entirely about being Christians.

 

[TCassidy]

Indian raids, slave rebellions, lynchings and other mob actions have been a part of our history which left us with a disposition toward violence.

Yes, we have a history spotted by violence, but it is not the rule. And today our violent crime rate is 1/5 that of England.

 

[TCassidy]

States with more restrictions on acquiring a gun cannot ban guns purchased in states

That is not true. It is illegal to import a firearm into the state of California without going through a FFL and filling out the form 4473 and undergoing a NICS check. And even then the firearm must be on the "approved" list or you cannot bring it into California.

 

[KenH]

Make comparisons. That's fine. I believe the Bible is correct:

Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight, and the earth was filled with violence. - Genesis 6:11

For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. - Matthew 24:37

I don't think the United States is exempted from this.

 

[David Kent]

The fact that Americans own guns is not evidence hat we have a violent society.

No, but by the use it does,

 

[David Kent]

Yes, we have a history spotted by violence, but it is not the rule. And today our violent crime rate is (⅕) of that of England.

But violence by police in US is probably more that 90% more that UK.

How many in the US are killed by guns every year? They did say on a recent news broadcast, I think it was either 30,000 or 300,000, I can't remember.

 

[David Kent]

Every society has its share of violence. However in the US the areas where gun laws are the strongest the violence mirrors it.

Easy to say, but do you have proof?