Should America BAN Burqa's???

[righteousdude2]

I came across the following article on Politics Daily, and was intrigued enough by the article to ask the Board if we as American's should consider banning the wearing of burqa's?

Please take the poll, and feel free to add your feedback.

As for me, I have no problem with burqa's, but this article makes some good points, especially the following: "Is it a sign of repression, even when the wearers aver they have "chosen" to don it? What is the impact of a woman's wearing of a burqa or a headscarf on other women in that society?" Of course, he makes a good point about the Catholic Church and Nuns wearing their habit; which seems to be a form of burqa.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/0...ces-proposed-burqa-ban-why-americans-might-w/

So, what do you think?

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

 

[rbell]

you're kidding, right?

Of course not. This is America. Freedom.

 

[Dragoon68]

Which one - "Burga" King, McDonald's, Wendy's, Whataburga?

 

[righteousdude2]

Loved Your Response

Which one - "Burga" King, McDonald's, Wendy's, Whataburga?

Thanks for keeping this light. That was my intent :laugh:

 

[Scarlett O.]

As long as a woman is dressed modestly, I don't give a flying fig what she wears - dress, pants, leather skirt, burqa, overalls, suit, walking shorts, go-go boots, flip-flops, clown suit, or whatever.

However, I would never personally wear a burqa - but then again, I would never personally wear go-go boots or a clown suit.

I do challenge the author's citation that Muslim women who wear them "choose" to do so.

Yes, they may say that - but it's just my opinion that they have been mentally and emotionally conditioned to believe that their bodies are wicked things and that they should hide them in shame so not to shame their husbands.

To me, that's not choosing as in the true meaning of choice.

So - in America - if a burqa floats your boat - wear it.

 

[menageriekeeper]

Do we still live in America? Sometimes, like when I hear inane ideas such as the one in the OP, I wonder.

So, are we to assume that every woman who chooses to wear a burka is choosing to be oppressed? Or just that she is too dumb to understand that she is BEING oppressed or she wouldn't wear it?

 

[sag38]

Ban them. I'm sorry but we cannot allow the Muslims anymore leeway in this country. It is one of the most disgusting forms of repression of women and should never be allowed in this country.

 

[FR7 Baptist]

No, we must respect the rule of law and allow them.

 

[Salty]

The problem would be safety.
How easy would it be for a man to walk into a bank in a burqa and to rob the bank.

Should a police officer be allowed to required a female to remove her burqa to ensure the individual is the one on the license?

 

[Trotter]

Salty's thoughts are the same as mine. A full body covering would lend itself to all kinds of mischief. You have to remember that there have been female suicide bombers used in the middle east, as well as men using burqa to sneak in closer to their targets. What's to stop them from doing the same here?

No one is allowed to wear a face mask that obscures their identity. Islam or not, that same law should apply across the board.

 

[donnA]

so we're to start outlawing clothing, more stupid laws imposed on us, outlaw this, and whats next?

 

[Salty]

so we're to start outlawing clothing, more stupid laws imposed on us, outlaw this, and whats next?

Govt job is to protect me from others, therefore such laws may not necessiarly be stupid

 

[FR7 Baptist]

No one is allowed to wear a face mask that obscures their identity. Islam or not, that same law should apply across the board.

Since when was it illegal to wear a face mask? It's one thing if a cop, judge, etc. tells you to take it off to see your identity, but, to my knowledge, wearing one isn't illegal per se.

 

[Aaron]

As long as a woman is dressed modestly, I don't give a flying fig what she wears -

Me either. So long as it's under a burqa. :tongue3:

 

[Matt Black]

The civil rights issue problem with banning the burqa as an article of (at least quasi-) religious clothing is, once you establish the principle of banning religious clothes, where does it stop? Ban clergy from wearing dog collars? Amish and Mennonite women from wearing head-scarves? Christians wearing crosses? I've seen this sort of thing in France, and all the Christians smirked when the government did it to the Muzzies, but they stopped smirking when they started banning Christian religious symbols...remember Niemoller's words: "First they came for the communists, and I did not protest because I was not a communist...etc".

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The civil rights issue problem with banning the burqa as an article of (at least quasi-) religious clothing is, once you establish the principle of banning religious clothes, where does it stop? Ban clergy from wearing dog collars? Amish and Mennonite women from wearing head-scarves? Christians wearing crosses? I've seen this sort of thing in France, and all the Christians smirked when the government did it to the Muzzies, but they stopped smirking when they started banning Christian religious symbols...remember Niemoller's words: "First they came for the communists, and I did not protest because I was not a communist...etc".

This issue of expediency without thinking through all the repercussions concerns me as well. We far to often act before we think things through.

 

[donnA]

Govt job is to protect me from others, therefore such laws may not necessiarly be stupid

then you agree they can ban christians from wearing christian tshirts, or crosses? christianity is more and more being called hate speech, and now we're possible terrorists if we're christians in this country. we're enxt, and you give permission, after others want to be safe too, from us.
Start giving away freedoms, it won't be long till you lose more, and soon, there are none.

 

[donnA]

The civil rights issue problem with banning the burqa as an article of (at least quasi-) religious clothing is, once you establish the principle of banning religious clothes, where does it stop? Ban clergy from wearing dog collars? Amish and Mennonite women from wearing head-scarves? Christians wearing crosses? I've seen this sort of thing in France, and all the Christians smirked when the government did it to the Muzzies, but they stopped smirking when they started banning Christian religious symbols...remember Niemoller's words: "First they came for the communists, and I did not protest because I was not a communist...etc".

Exactly, glad someone else sees what the possible problems are with this.

 

[Matt Black]

I do challenge the author's citation that Muslim women who wear them "choose" to do so.

Yes, they may say that - but it's just my opinion that they have been mentally and emotionally conditioned to believe that their bodies are wicked things and that they should hide them in shame so not to shame their husbands.

To me, that's not choosing as in the true meaning of choice.

You see, the trouble is that's the sort of argument I've heard put forward - by secularists and others - against the wearing of headcoverings by women in certain Christian fundamentalist denominations. "If you wants to butter you bread that way, you'se better be prepared to eat it."

 

[Salty]

then you agree they can ban christians from wearing christian tshirts, or crosses? christianity is more and more being called hate speech, and now we're possible terrorists if we're christians in this country. we're enxt, and you give permission, after others want to be safe too, from us.
Start giving away freedoms, it won't be long till you lose more, and soon, there are none.

The issue of burkas is a safety issue.
As far as wearing Christian t-shirts - if its in school, I would want a dress code anyways - buts thats another story.

As far as wearing a Christian cross - that is not an issue of safety. If a Jewish man was asked to remove his head gear, (for example at an airport) he should - but otherwise it is not going to hurt my feelings he has one on.