Should God have compassion?

[Jarthur001]

bob.....you miss alot..for you never read. you make no point...for you only listen to Bob..and no one can tell you anything. said AGAIN i did not answer...i did bob...why say i didn't??

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/8.html#000115

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/8.html#000116


Did you read this by pastor larry?

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/8.html#000117


did you read this by whatever?

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/8.html#000118

NO!! you just post again...

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/9.html#000126

and again...

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/9.html#000133

and again...

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/10.html#000138


as if no one replies.

yes...you miss alot bob. if you ask...and someone replies...why not take the time to read them...and not act is if they did not.

Understand?

In Christ...James

 

[Jarthur001]

Originally posted by BobRyan:
[QB] </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />
Bob...
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SHOULD God have mercy for the REASONS HE GIVES?

A simple yes or no will do.

And then follow up with WHY you think God SHOULD have mercy for the reaons HE GIVES or why He SHOUOLD NOT give those reasons.

(This is obvious at any grade level)

James....
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is this the 3rd time in the post you asked this? is this the 34th time you have asked this on this tread?

I lost count. Calvinists find more ways to dodge the question than I found to repeat it.
James....
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this is sad...what happen to the great Bob? he can no longer read.

Bob...
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If you are through counting instead of answering - would you now just say "yes or "no" and then give the reason?
James......
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strange


Bob...
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</font>[/QUOTE]Is that your way of NOT saying YES or NO "again"?
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James...
very strange....


Bob....
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Did you "gloss over those facts AGAIN" Jim?
James......
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you did not read them did you? unreal


Bob.....
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How can you bring yourself to gloss over the text "so many times in a row" Jim?
James...
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READ MY POST


Bob...
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How do you do it?
James....
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look back a few pages bob...READ...then you owe me a coke.


Bob.....
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No I make the question REALLY REALLY SHORT to make it harder NOT to say "yes" or "no" and then give a REASON for your answer...
James...
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let me say this so that you can understand...
READ


bob....
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But James finds a shameless dodge "anyway"
James...
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oh did i? what have i dodged?


Bob....
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CLAIMING to have ALREADY said "yes or no" without ACTUALLY SAYING yes or no - was a good one Jim!!
James...
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what part did you not understand bob? oh wait..you didn't read did ya?


Bob...
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I had not thought of that dodge.

James...
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fine..now try reading


Bob...
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Your creativity stands up to the best of 'em on this one.
James...
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yep...that's me bob. Now read the post where i replied


Bob...
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Here is THE QUESTION God asks of man - (notice that God IS SPEAKING to JONAH - much to Calvinist dismay).
[/QUOTE]This is the point where james deletes the text of Jonah 4 so that it won't be so obvious that the QUESTION GOD asks in Jonah 4 is about to be "ignored again" in yet "ANOTHER REPLY" that is DEVOID of a YES or NO to God's Question.
James....
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I have nothing to hide...you just have not read them...have you? i see 3 cokes coming my way now.


James....
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SOMEONE HELP BOB...he just can't stop.

bob...what is up with this? is this a joke?
[/QUOTE]See? you did it "again".

BTW - I was about to ask you the same question.
James...
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ask me


Bob.....
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And of course in that post I gave the text of Jonah 4 "one more time" -- STILL WATING for a yes or no from Calvinists.
James...
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i can't wait to cut and past this someday. I'm saving the whole tread on PDF ...just for you Bob.

Bob...
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And we saw "once again" that the Calvinist response is to DELETE THE TEXT of Jonah 4 and talk about HOW MANY TIMES they have been asked to give an answer to the question GOD ASKS JONAH!
James...
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this is great!!! once again. make that 4 cokes


Bob....
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How sad that a defense of Calvinism must use such tactics.
james...
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no wait...a full six pack.


well...by now you may have read that other post where the links are to my reply and to others reply. so tell me bob....when do i get my cokes?

In Christ...James

 

[BobRyan]

OK going BACK to the link YOU give as your first example of an ANSWER --

Originally posted by Jarthur001:

God is not asking anyone. It’s a rhetorical question.

Bob said –
#1. CONTEXT shows that God is speaking to Jonah. So you are clearly wrong at the start.

This response is exceedingly obvious from the quote of Jonah 4 as anyone can plainly see

Jonah 4

9Then God said to Jonah, "Do you have good reason to be angry about the plant?" And he said, "I have good reason to be angry, even to death."
10Then the LORD said, "You had compassion on the plant for which you did not work and which you did not cause to grow, which came up overnight and perished overnight.

11"Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?"

“God said TO JONAH”

James responds

again Mr cut and paste...let me cut and paste what YOU posted...

"Who is He asking? Jonah?"

he was ASKING noone. Now you change to what you should be saying all along. How many times has others brought this up?

anyway...you got it now. Yes...he is talking to Jonah

In this response James answers BOTH WAYS – claiming that God is speaking NNE and then saying I AM correct to say God is speaking to Jonah!!

How sad that this is “the RESPONSE” James wants to highlight to his first obvious flaw in that discussion.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Still working on that first post of James --

Bob. Asks ..
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#2. What is the implied answer to the rhetorical question since you are willing to admit it is rhetorical?

This is the FIRST reference that James has given to HIS reply – and yet in this reference he claims he is already done with his reply

James........
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Humm. did you not read my reply?

let me cut and paste AGAIN..

"Each man would have to say on their own for Calvinist do not speak in one group and one voice.

This is a dodge “again” since the question I AM ASKING allows ANY Calvinist to speak up and state his response freely. Why must Calvinists be so married to misdirection and obfuscation – just “Answer the question please”!

James said
But if God Elected to save some in this city...he would get it done even it I said no.

That was NOT the question. You are spinning the question to something like “WOULD God have listened to Jonah’s answer” that was NOT the question. You are simply ducking/dodging – fleeing the actual question

Here it is “again”

Bob. Asks ..
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#2. What is the implied answer to the rhetorical question since you are willing to admit it is rhetorical?

Recall that the EVIDENCE God gives FOR his decision is IN the question He asks – so the IMPLIED ANSWER IS THERE! For ALL to read!

Jonah 4

9Then God said to Jonah, "Do you have good reason to be angry about the plant?" And he said, "I have good reason to be angry, even to death."
10Then the LORD said, "You had compassion on the plant for which you did not work and which you did not cause to grow, which came up overnight and perished overnight.

11"Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?"

I am simply asking Calvinists to “admit the obvious” instead of ducking/dodging and misdirecting AWAY from it.

But “this” is asking too much of Calvinists – so far.

Notice the rambling direction James response takes AWAY from the simple question “What is the IMPLIED ANSWER to the Rhetorical question” AS SEEN IN the text?

And if it the tool that God wanted to use to reach the elect was ME....if i ran He would chase me down and have a big fish after me. Jonah said no many times...yet God had a plan to save the elect from the judgement He had for this evil City. Notice too....God didn't elect them for their good deeds. These guys were wicked. This is called grace....for there was nothing good in them."

why do you keep acting like there is no reply?

So you SEE that rambling misdirection OFF into the blue sky of “this is called grace” and “God is in charge” as the IMPLIED ANSWER when God gives the NUMBER OF ANIMALS as one of the REASONS for why HE SHOULD have mercy???

When you simply dodge the text (notice that you quote NOTHING from the text in your answer that supposedly is to SHOW what the IMPLIED ANSWER is IN the TEXT of Jonah 4) – you want to harp that this is not your dodge OF THE TEXT but ignoring it is in fact your way of embracing it and answering FROM the text??

How desperate your logic – how wild the gyrations away from the text!

Notice that in your spin on “rhetorical question” you choose to IGNORE ALL that God said IN The text about WHY HE SHOULD have mercy – and claim that “Calvinist knowledge of God alone” should suffice as the ANSWER NOT what we actually READ IN THE TEXT!!

James
That was a rhetorical question also...for we ALL know the answer to this.

Again – how lacking.

After spinning like that – we are STILL left waiting for a Calvinist answer to WHAT the implied answer to the question is AS SEEN IN THE TEXT of Jonah 4. You know – USE the actual words GOD STATES in that question WHERE HE shows His reasons for concluding that HE SHOULD have mercy.

How “hard IS this” for Calvinists?

Why must they “pretend” not to “get it”?

(The first post is not doing so well so far)

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Bob’s question --

God asks "SHOULD I not have mercy"

Calvinist answers --


A. "YES you should"
B. "No you should NOT"


Which one Calvinists?

James said
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should i cut and paste again? no..just read

So THAT is your way of NOT SAYING “A” or “B”??

NOT saying “YES” or “NO”??

NOT answering “YES he SHOULD” or “NO He should NOT” when GOD HIMSELF asks “SHOULD I NOT have MERCY”??

What a nice thing for Calvinists. DODGE the question and then BLAME the Arminians who SEE them dodge it – for their own dodging!!

And THIS is what you hold up as the LINK to YOUR ANSWER already given???!!

How “instructive”

Bob asks.
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A. "YES you should"
B. "No you should NOT"


Which one Calvinists?
[/quote]

James said


YES.

Hold the phone!!!

Stop the PRESSES!!

I missed that one!

James said “YES GOD SHOULD HAVE MERCY”??!!!

And James – would that be FOR THE REASONS that GOD gives in the text of Jonah 4?.

(I have been asking THAT one for a while so far)

James
But the point of the story is this. Even if Bob, John, James, Webdog, KJB, TexasSky, uncle billy, brad pitt....says NO. God will send to the ones he has elected …

Indeed THAT is what Calvinists WISH God had placed IN THE TEXT as HIS REASONS for YES –

But INSTEAD of that God says it is the NUMBER of people, their IGNORANCE and the NUMBER of ANIMALS.

Notice that NONE of those EVER show up as REASONS that God SHOULD have mercy in YOUR response or in ANY Calvinist response!

Rather Calvinist INSERT CALVINISM into the text (using the refined standard of eisegesis they are so accustomed to using) – as you just did. IGNORING all that God gives as REASONS – Calvinists “make up their OWN” EVEN though the question insists that GODS WORDS be given some attention in that text of Jonah 4.

Please contrast GODS REASONS as HE STATES them IN THE TEXT – compared to your own answer ..

Jonah 4

9Then God said to Jonah, "Do you have good reason to be angry about the plant?" And he said, "I have good reason to be angry, even to death."
10Then the LORD said, "You had compassion on the plant for which you did not work and which you did not cause to grow, which came up overnight and perished overnight.

11"Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?"

James said

for salvation. Don't you know....you really can not say no to God.

Oh now you are talking about the way MOSES said NO to God and Moses wins!

In any case – the place you flee to here – is also NOT Where God goes in the text we just read – HE does not say “SHOULD I NOT have MERCY on the city? After all who are you to tell me I should not”

Your entire argument is MISSING FROM THE TEXT – so you simply INSERT IT as if this is something God had used IN HIS words to Jonah.

How desperate is that James?

God says YES....jonah says no...and runs....God says YES...and makes a storm come....Jonah says...throw me over board...think he would die..and not have to. God says YES...by sending a fish. Notice that the fish was not a bad thing. It saved Jonhas life. A picture of Christ...A picture of his death...in the tummy of the fish 3 days....a picture of salvation...for it saved Jonah's life. All at the same time..it was God judgement. both? yes both. The point of the book of Jonah is to see GOD in control and GODS plan will come about.

That is a mix of truth with error James.

It is true that the book shows cases of conflict and – force. But IN THIS CASE we have God REASONING with Jonah and God HIMSELF gives REASONS for His action. NONE of which have you been ABLE to get yourself to actually admit or quote or honor THOUGH I am rubbing your nose in it (so to speak) repeatedly.

Tell me this has “skipped” your notice. I dare you.

James then tells us what Calvinists WISH they had read in Jonah 4 INSTEAD of the words we ACTUALLY SEE there -

James
Again...God was not asking if it was OK. He was telling Johan, yonah, ionas, jonas...that he will have mercy on whoever He pleases...just as romans 9 says.

Indeed you WISH you had read ROMANS 9 in Jonah 4!!

I get that.

But then conflictedly you admit that the answer to God’s question is “YES YOU SHOULD have MERCY on the city”.

Note that God did NOT ask Jonah “Should I not have mercy on the city? Or should any old whim of mine be sufficient to have mercy any time I feel like it”.

OH how “Calvinist” the text WOULD have been – if Jonah 4 were written as you have been eisegeting the text so far James!

You have been saying that REPEATEDLY as you IGNORE every word GOD ACTUALLY SAID to Jonah when HE SUPPORTED His conclusion with REASON!

I suppose you would like to blame Arminians for noticing that you are doing it “Again” – eh?

 

[BobRyan]

James repeats again – what he WISHES he had read IN JONAH 4
Jonah looked at them and saw their wickness and said...HOW COULD YOU GOD?? How could you save such a wicked group? Yet...God can and will do as He pleases.

So Jonah 4 SAY “God can and will do as HE pleases” in GODS WORDS to JONAH?

OR does Jonah 4 SAY that God views the NUMBER of people, the IGNORANCE of the people AND the NUMBER of ANIMALS as REASONS that HE SHOULD have mercy?

Can you bring yourself to actually LOOK at Jonah 4 – ALL of IT instead of continually “repeating your view of ROMANS 9”???

Lets look “again” at the text that you are NOT quoting in your answer as to WHY God insists that the ANSWER is “YES” HE SHOULD have MERCY on the wicked city.

Note the REASONS that GOD gives – and lets pretend that instead of jumping AWAY from Jonah 4 and reading your views of ROMANS 9 INSTEAD – that you actually STAY in Jonah 4 and READ the text – including the “details”.

Jonah 4

9Then God said to Jonah, "Do you have good reason to be angry about the plant?" And he said, "I have good reason to be angry, even to death."
10Then the LORD said, "You had compassion on the plant for which you did not work and which you did not cause to grow, which came up overnight and perished overnight.

11"Should I not have compassion on Nineveh, the great city in which there are more than 120,000 persons who do not know the difference between their right and left hand, as well as many animals?"

I think I saw some “details” there in what GOD said.

Did you?

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Ok - that was a lot of fun - thanks to James for the ride.

We did make "some headway" in that James did concede that the ANSWER to God's question is "YES" God SHOULD have mercy on the wicked city.

So that is a huge plus - just finally wrench that YES out --

But James what you NEVER HAVE been able to do beyond that - is to ACTUALLY MENTION the REASONS that GOD GIVES in His question TO JONAH - for WHY He SHOULD have Mercy.

And that is because NONE of them are EVER used by Calvinism to support God having mercy.

(Of course Calvinism does not even go as far as you did - to admit that yes GOD SHOULD have mercy on the wicked city). They argue that there IS NO SHOULD - when it comes to mercy. God CAN but never SHOULD.

Notice that the obvious and devastating point of admitting that God SHOULD have mercy on that wicked city FOR THE REASONS HE GIVES in Jonah 4 -- would totally obliterate the Calvinist error teaching the partiality of God - the bias of God - the fickle arbitrary nature of His arbitarary selection -- the core of error taught in Calvinism.

Hence the trouble Calvinists have been having so far in dodgin the REASONS that God gives IN JONAH 4 for WHY HE SHOULD have MERCY on the WICKED.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

James asks
Did you read this by pastor larry?

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/8.html#000117

Apparently you did not read that link.

In that Link Pastor Larry DOES NOT answer the question - rather he merely CLAIMS that on page 4 he addressed my TWO questions on Jonah 4.

But if you look on page 4 - you never see Pastor Larry EVER address those TWO questions. Rather he talks to some OTHER questions - questions about election and Nineveh. Questions I NEVER ASK because I know that Calvinists would love to sidetrack down a rabbit trail of that form INSTEAD of actually addressing the TWO pointed questions.

#1. WHAT is the ANSWER to God's POINTED question?
#2. WHAT are the REASONS for that ANSWER that GOD GIVES (IN THE TEXT OF JONAH 4) - and how would THOSE REASONS fit Calvinism.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

You also refernce the nonsense link for Whatever --

Here is the substance of that link YOU gave above -

quote:
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God asks
"SHOULD I not have mercy"

Calvinist answers --


A. "YES you should"
B. "No you should NOT"


Which one Calvinsts?
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C. "No, you should".

Already been answered.

#1. IT HAS not already been answered by Whatever. In fact "No you should" is just nonsense.

In the post above Whatever does NOT provide ANY INFORMATION at ALL!

Why would you choose to highlight a nonsense link AS IF that is a good example of "another Calvinist ANSWERING" the two questions.

AS IF that is an example of me ignoring the REPEATED subtantive - compelling - exhaustive - complete ANSWERS by Calvinists to my TWO questions on PAGE 1???

Look at the extreme misdirection in your post above as it pertains to that nonsense response we see above from Whatever.

James said
did you read this by whatever?

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/8.html#000118

NO!! you just post again...

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/9.html#000126

and again...

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/9.html#000133

and again...

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1586/10.html#000138


as if no one replies.

What is driving you to mislead like that JAmes?

In Christ,

Bob

 

[Jarthur001]

Bob.....


James said


YES.

Hold the phone!!!

Stop the PRESSES!!

I missed that one!

James said “YES GOD SHOULD HAVE MERCY”??!!!

And James – would that be FOR THE REASONS that GOD gives in the text of Jonah 4?.

(I have been asking THAT one for a while so far)
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yes and you overlooked it for many many many post...acting like a fool...trashing others when it was you all along. somethings never change.

i said this when? unreal.

i still want my cokes.


send them to...james...the tall guy in Charleston WV


Thanks...

In Christ..James


BTW...still you act like it was not you...you act like i just posted it...but that is not the case..now is it? unreal

 

[Jarthur001]

Bob you keep saying no one replies...yet this is not true. Now...you may not agree with the reply...or you may not understand....but they do reply...right?

below you call it "nonsense"...but that is a reply.

Now...who is it that misleads...again??

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You also refernce the nonsense link for Whatever --
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unreal

IN christ...James

 

[Jarthur001]

Bob,

why is it ever time someone ask you something...you we answer and ask you something back...you say it is a dodge? I answer...and you dodge by claim my question is a dodge..so you never answer what i post. This is all about you..right Bob?

or can i ask?

can you answer?

let me know what your rules are.


In Christ..James

 

[whatever]

Originally posted by BobRyan:
You also refernce the nonsense link for Whatever

. . .

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> God asks
"SHOULD I not have mercy"

Calvinist answers --


A. "YES you should"
B. "No you should NOT"


Which one Calvinsts?
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C. "No, you should".

Already been answered.

#1. IT HAS not already been answered by Whatever. In fact "No you should" is just nonsense.

In the post above Whatever does NOT provide ANY INFORMATION at ALL!

Why would you choose to highlight a nonsense link AS IF that is a good example of "another Calvinist ANSWERING" the two questions.

AS IF that is an example of me ignoring the REPEATED subtantive - compelling - exhaustive - complete ANSWERS by Calvinists to my TWO questions on PAGE 1???</font>[/QUOTE]Maybe this will be clearer.

God: Should I not have mercy on Nineveh?

Me: No, God, You are correct. You should NOT not have mercy on Nineveh. In fact, it would be perfectly within your own revealed character to have mercy on Nineveh, no matter what they have done to Your people in the past.

Just because you do not understand the answer does not make the answer nonsense.

 

[Jarthur001]

this is some spin..and also a lie bob. well maybe not a lie to you. Do you understand this...you keep asking..." who is God asking this to?...and we keep saying it is a statement.

asking....statement....get it?

asking....statement.


bob....
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james says
"Who is He asking? Jonah?"

he was ASKING noone. Now you change to what you should be saying all along. How many times has others brought this up?

anyway...you got it now. Yes...he is talking to Jonah

[/QUOTE]

In this response James answers BOTH WAYS – claiming that God is speaking NNE and then saying I AM correct to say God is speaking to Jonah!!

How sad that this is “the RESPONSE” James wants to highlight to his first obvious flaw in that discussion.
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again..read above..you stated i said.

..he is speaking to no one.

what i said...

he is asking no one.

that is to prove the point...he was really not asking Jonah...but making a statement. get it ...yet? how many post will it take?

now that you are reading....read the right words.

read the RIGHT words. ok?

this always helps in the understanding...ok?

The spin master lives


In Christ...James

 

[Jarthur001]

here is a hint Bob.


rhetorical question ...is a statement, stated as a question which neither expects nor requires an answer.

understand?

 

[Pastor Larry]

Originally posted by BobRyan:
Apparently you did not read that link.

In that Link Pastor Larry DOES NOT answer the question - rather he merely CLAIMS that on page 4 he addressed my TWO questions on Jonah 4.

But if you look on page 4 - you never see Pastor Larry EVER address those TWO questions. Rather he talks to some OTHER questions - questions about election and Nineveh. Questions I NEVER ASK because I know that Calvinists would love to sidetrack down a rabbit trail of that form INSTEAD of actually addressing the TWO pointed questions.

#1. WHAT is the ANSWER to God's POINTED question?
#2. WHAT are the REASONS for that ANSWER that GOD GIVES (IN THE TEXT OF JONAH 4) - and how would THOSE REASONS fit Calvinism.

Bob, you are dishonest. I did answer the question. I said God's argument in Jonah is that he can have compassion on them because he is sovereign. They are ones he created and he gets to do with them whatever he desires. Now, you may not like the answer. But the truth is that God can have compassion on them because he created them. IT is a rhetorical question, meaning that no answer is given by Jonah. God gives his own answer in v. 10. It takes a lot more Bible study than you are accumstomed to do, and your usual ranting and raving about nonsense won't help you find it. But it does you no good to accuse me of not asnwering your question. I most certainly did. It was a foolish question to begin with, built on a faultly foundation, and the reason was given in the text.

Bob, you need to repent of your false doctrine and submit yourself to God. You don't have to become a Calvinist to do that. You do need to quit being obstinate in the face of God's word. You need to quit "answering back to God." He has forbidden that and for some inexplicable reason, you think you are the exception.

You don't need to be a Calvinist. There is room for debate on some of these issues. You do need to be submissive ot God's word, more diligent in your Bible study, and less willing to make false statements about others.

 

[ascund]

Whoa!

Pastor Larry fires salvos of truth in confrontation of blustering dishonesty purveying anfractuous theological putrescence in perpetuity.

Congrats!
Lloyd

 

[Bro. James]

All of this is in answer to "what God should do".

Who are we to say what God should do?--He is the potter, we are the clay. That is no small amount of arrogance on our parts to be suggesting that we can know the mind of God. Neither can we understand His plan. We are totally depraved. Our hearts, our minds, every aspect of our being is corrupted by our sin nature.

Behold, the Lamb of God, which has taken away the sin of the world.

What have we done with Jesus?

Selah,

Bro. James

 

[ascund]

Hey Bro. James

While we cannot fathom the mind of God as an infinite ocean, we can yet wade at the shores.

What knowledge God has given to us - - - is ours!

Jer 11:18 And the LORD hath given me knowledge [of it], and I know [it]: then thou shewedst me their doings.

1Cr 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that [pertain] unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue

James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

It is not an egotistical outburst to claim knowledge of spiritual things given to us by God. God has clearly revealed salvation through faith in Jesus Christ. One can comprehend this statement; even small children can comprehend this statement.

The Bible has many such "whosever" verses.

Lloyd

 

[Bro. James]

Knowledge and the source thereof: any "knowledge" acquired outside the Holy Spirit bearing witness to the Word is bogus.

There have been many prophets in the last two millenia-- only Jesus is: The Way, The Truth, and The Life--He called all others: thieves and robbers.

If knowledge from God does not make one prostrate in repentance and humility, the source is probably the world.

Beware: the wolves dressed like sheep.

Selah,

Bro. James