saturneptune
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No, but if you had sent in 50K to him he would have prayed for you 50,000 times and put your name on a brick at Liberty University.
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Should Preachers charge to Preach?
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No, but if you had sent in 50K to him he would have prayed for you 50,000 times and put your name on a brick at Liberty University.
It seems to me that 1 Timothy 5:17 answers the OP pretty clearly.
then he is a mercenary. a professional preacher. that is how he makes a living. he should pay taxes. if he doesn't then he's added tax evasion to his issues.
I don't think it does. 1 Timothy 5:17 seem to speak of church elders who take care of a local, visible congregation.
they are to be supported well, both in finances and in practice.
double honor.
an itinerant preacher may or may not be a church elder.
among PB's he is oftentimes a licentiate, someone set at liberty to preach the gospel among Primitive Baptists and is invited to various churches so they may hear him preach and confirm by hearing and sight whether or not the Spirit has gifted him with that ability.
Not to say there are no ordained elders who are not itinerant preachers as well, but most ordained elders pastor a church.
Does everything everyone says have to be corrected to the minutia?
what is your problem, rev ?
It seems like no matter what is said on this board, even the smallest of things, Someone feels the need to come along and tear it apart.
I did not feel the need to tear apart preachin jesus' post.
I took a look at the Scripture, took a look at his suggestion that it answers the OP, and explained why I THINK it does not.
It IS a discussion board, last time I look.
Has that changed ?
Zaac
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He's just cranky and wants you take short, underhanded jabs at folks the way he does with every post.:laugh:
1.licentiate
the holder of a certificate of competence to practice a certain profession.
I had an ancestor that was one of those "licentiates" & in those says, a poor man didnt have the money to go through Universities, much less primary or secondary schools. During that time, and down to both my grandfathers, they got up to about 3rd grade so they were able to barely read & then they went into the mines. So if you work in those environments & can read your bible & are able to spread the word of God, more power to you.
Since my ancestor could speak both the old language & the English, he was valuable as a translator to those who were older & could only speak that old language. I'm sure they stuffed dollar bills & gave him coin when they could afford it, but he never solicited it. Something sustains you down in those mines, something in your soul...I would suggest it was the knowledge of knowing he was used as an instrument of Gods will. And that was apparently enough.
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But of course it does.....Had I not believed in God, I might have gone into the profession myself & made it pay well!:laugh:
BTW....the web helps it a lot......you can sell tee shirts, mugs, etc while your preachin the word.....just have that CC handy.
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BTW....this morning I am going to a UMC (the biggest church in 2 counties) to see what they are all about. Their pastor makes over 100 K.
My Old School Pastor in KY makes nothing & his church budget is less than 10K.
What say you:smilewinkgrin:
My Old School Pastor in KY makes nothing & his church budget is less than 10K.
What say you:smilewinkgrin:
thisnumbersdisconnected
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If you were in Kansas City, I'd say you were going to Adam Hamilton's "Church of the Resurrection." Same story with him. My wife was going there when we met. She stopped, after hearing preaching and meeting the people at my SBC church. Hamilton's church is just cold. Unless you're in his little clique, you are just a warm body in their theater-style seating.
Our church is moderately big, but our pastor doesn't make a fortune. His daughter is taking federal loans to go to school, but his son got a football scholarship. His family lives pretty modestly given we have a membership of well over a thousand. Hamilton? His house looks as big as Jerry Johnston's did before his big fall. Johnston was SBC, proving no pastor in any denomination is immune to thinking it's about him and not about God.
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An idea of what they're charging (from premierespeakers.com):
Tim Lee, $5,000 fee, requires coach class airfare for 1
Jonathan Falwell, inquire for fee, requires coach class for 1
Josh Duggar, $10,000 fee, requires business class for 2
Lee Strobel, $12,500 fee, requires first class for 1
Tim LaHaye, $18,000 fee, requires first class for 1
Kirk Cameron, inquire for fee, requires first class for 2
Tim Lee, $5,000 fee, requires coach class airfare for 1
Jonathan Falwell, inquire for fee, requires coach class for 1
Josh Duggar, $10,000 fee, requires business class for 2
Lee Strobel, $12,500 fee, requires first class for 1
Tim LaHaye, $18,000 fee, requires first class for 1
Kirk Cameron, inquire for fee, requires first class for 2