Should the late Dr. Bruce M. Metzger Be Applauded or Anathematized?

[TCGreek]

Alot of "isms" there.

I rather believe him to be well studied and much of his allegories worth the study, afterall, Metzger was fully dedicated to the study of God's word, so any indepth research into his life is bound to uncover the Gospel in the effort.

Sal, I have to agree with all the others who have endorsed your post.

 

[Salamander]

Salute to Sal .

See, I'm not such a bad guy afterall.

 

[Salamander]

Sal, I have to agree with all the others who have endorsed your post.

If yall will endorse a few CHECKS for me I'll feel better.:wavey:

 

[Rippon]

Dr Metzger

Dr Bruce Metzger was a firm and unapologetic believer in the bodily Resurrection of the God-Man, Jesus Christ. It is true as a number of folks here have noted that he did not hold to inerrancy.

But have any of you at least stopped to ask, "Why?"

Dr Metzger did hold to infallibility. He did hold that Jesus Christ was God in human flesh who died upon the cross and salvation is by grace alone through faith alone because of the finished work of Christ alone.

Those like David Cloud who have felt free to judge the man's eternal destiny solely on the basis he was not a fundamentalist just might be in for a big surprise someday. Some might find Metzger welcomed into the kingdom while they are shut out.

The subject of Dr. Metzger came up on another thread, so I thought I might as well connect it to this existing one.

In a tribute to Dr. Metzger, Daniel Wallace said:

"A search of Google will reveal a lot of venom directed against Dr. Metzger. To be sure, there are things on which many Christians will disagree with him. But on the essentials of the faith, it's hard to take issue with him. He was adamant about the diety of Christ and his bodily resurrection."

 

[Reformed]

4. Was Dr. Piper, a Reformed Baptist pastor, right in paying this tribute?

Point of clarification. John Piper is not a Reformed Baptist.

 

[JonC]

Point of clarification. John Piper is not a Reformed Baptist.

Right....he's a 7 point Calvinist. Biggrin


(Actually, it depends on who's doing the defining. He defines himself as holding Reformed theology, Calvinism .... and yes, the other two points also. But many hold that there is no such a thing as "Reformed" Baptist).

 

[Van]

Why not list the views that are questionable, using quotes. All this generalization is mere gossip.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

If you're referring to Dr. Metzger, then this is the correct forum. If you are referring to Dr. Piper, then another forum would be correct.

Why not list the views that are questionable, using quotes. All this generalization is mere gossip.

 

[Van]

Still waiting for a specific list of questionable assertions pertaining to Dr. Metzger

 

[preachinjesus]

Interesting necro'd thread...guess I wasn't around for the first time through...

Any one besmirching Dr Metzger for a lack of fidelity to the faith or "liberal leanings" likely didn't know Dr Metzger. He was a faithful man full of wisdom and care for others. His devotion to the Scriptures are, imho, unmatched in the textual critical world. Dr Metzger, while not an evangelical, was a fine Christian man.

Usually those who criticize his person and faith are those who are unfamiliar with his scholarship.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

"believed Moses did not write the Pentateuch, Deuteronomy was not written until 700 years before Christ, the Old Testament is a mixture of “myth, legend, and history,” the record of the worldwide flood of Noah’s day is exaggerated, the book of Job is a folktale, the miracle accounts about Elijah and Elisha contain “legendary elements,” Isaiah was written by Isaiah plus two or three unknown men who wrote centuries later, the record of Jonah is a “legend,” Daniel does not contain supernatural prophecy, Paul did not write the Pastoral Epistles, Peter did not write 2 Peter, etc. All of these unbelieving lies can be found in the notes to the Reader’s Digest Condensed Bible, which were written by Metzger, and in the New Oxford Annotated Bible, of which Metzger is a co-editor. "http://www.wayoflife.org/database/wellsofinfidelity.html

 

[Van]

Thanks Jordan, here is another link I came across,
http://www.gracembc.org/images/BM_METZGER.pdf

 

[Revmitchell]

"believed Moses did not write the Pentateuch, Deuteronomy was not written until 700 years before Christ, the Old Testament is a mixture of “myth, legend, and history,” the record of the worldwide flood of Noah’s day is exaggerated, the book of Job is a folktale, the miracle accounts about Elijah and Elisha contain “legendary elements,” Isaiah was written by Isaiah plus two or three unknown men who wrote centuries later, the record of Jonah is a “legend,” Daniel does not contain supernatural prophecy, Paul did not write the Pastoral Epistles, Peter did not write 2 Peter, etc. All of these unbelieving lies can be found in the notes to the Reader’s Digest Condensed Bible, which were written by Metzger, and in the New Oxford Annotated Bible, of which Metzger is a co-editor. "http://www.wayoflife.org/database/wellsofinfidelity.html

He believed a bunch of garbage

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Point of clarification. John Piper is not a Reformed Baptist.

Correct! Piper is a charismatic, and does not hold to any of the Reformed confessions (specifically the 1689). That doesn't make him the devil incarnate, but it does disqualify him from being described as a R.B.

 

[Jerome]

He is to be commended for being forthright. Many so-called Reformed Baptists likewise have issues with parts of the The Confession, yet still insist they 'hold' to it.

https://contrast2.wordpress.com/2015/11/14/is-john-piper-confessional/

they wrote a new confession rather than holding to the 1689 London Baptist Confession. . . .we should applaud Piper. Why? Because he properly recognizes the purpose of a confession.

Piper is to be commended for recognizing that he is in disagreement with the 1689 on this point. Some, like Gregory Nichols, agree with Piper but still claim to hold to the 1689.

we should appreciate how seriously Piper takes the practice of confession. He could dismiss the issue as trivial and say he still holds to the 1689 Confession, but he doesn’t because he believes words matter.

 

[Rob_BW]

How does one wake up one day, with what seems to be an illustrious academic career, and decide that they're going to work on the Readers Digest Condensed Bible?

 

[Logos1560]

the Readers Digest Condensed Bible?

Others had made condensed editions of the KJV many years earlier so the Readers Digest edition is not the first condensed Bible. If I recall correctly, one condensed edition of the KJV was printed in the 1700's.