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Should the shot be pulled? Or mandated?
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Is any agency in the government of the USA responsible for investigating what is reported through VARES? Who?
How is that investigation made?
I do not believe there is any investigations. None. Zero, 0000000000000000000000000000000
Aaron Siri represented many physicians suffering from the jab at Sen Ron Johnson's hearing - YouTube
Do you believe this man is lying. Do you believe the CDC is going to investigate any of these reports? I will answer. No.
They do not care.
Have you seen the videos of these athletes falling out following the vaccines? Do you believe just all of a sudden this is happing to the young healthy people like never has been seen in the past?
Just an act of God, I guess.
Post 18 then answer post 19?
Was it man made, Jon,? Why would anyone make something like Covid 19 Sars Covid 2?
VARES is a CDC resource.
Scientists make and experiment with viruses for several reasons, mostly to find effective means of controlling diseases.
This article may help to explain both the reasons and the controversy with experimenting with such contagens.
Why Scientists Tweak Lab Viruses to Make Them More Contagious
if a business is willing to accept the liability for that decision, then I agree.
There's liability in all sorts of business decisions ... why wouldn't mandating a injection into a person's own body warrant backing that decision with being liable for the results?
Or should businesses be free of liability to anything?
The business should have workman's compensation which is designed for this type of liability. It has been deemed sufficient for other workplace injuries (to include other vaccinations that employers have historically required).
If liability is the issue then perhaps the focus should be directed towards increasing workman's compensation and perhaps disability.
I support increasing these things if they ate needed but I am very hesitant to place limitations on employers that are not already in place.
So for me, if the vaccine is considered safe and effective by the FDA and CDC then it should be up to the individual employer. Some businesses have required a flu vaccine for employment, but unlike influenza the covid virus has been deemed a workplace hazard by OSHA.
The issue of increasing support for workplace injuries is a different issue completely.
we've bantered this before, Jon. It's apparently your security blanket evidently in an effort to retain integrity of your argument, but it's not. It's a bedsheet for sleeping outside in 30 degree weather.
Workman's comp is sufficient for a temporary loss of an entry level job ... not the permanent loss of a tenured professional with specific skill set/responsibility.
This jab has already removed the ability of many pilots to "hold" an FAA required medical certificate. Workman's comp is a drop in the bucket to the lost earnings ... due to a mandated injection of an agent who's STATED purpose is to reduce the contraction/spread of a virus with a 99+% survivable rate.
Businesses enter into all kinds of agreements and just because it's desired doesn't make it so.
You seem to desire pure freedom for a business owner without the cost of doing business. Workmans' comp is sufficient for an entry level job of a person who was injured on the job but returns in (6) weeks.
This jab will/has taken "vested" persons out of their profession permanently. Take responsibility for THAT and I might agree ... of course, this is just addressing the "lost medical" part of this job, not the actual pain-suffering of what may have CAUSED that disqualification.
liability is not the issue.
mandating an experimental injection is the issue.
failing to recognize our nation was founded on individual supremacy first ... and the reasoned (there is no reason in any of this CV mess) collaboration of thoughtful and responsible people to organize society for the order of society; not so that society can dictate personal decisions such as taking a controversial substance.
Might as well add some of these mind-altering drugs, too. "object too loudly and we'll inject some crystal meth into ya"
How many per hundred, deaths, reported to VARES, as being relative to the vaccine, do you believe CDC has investigated?
How many per hundred, adverse events, reported to VARES, as being relative to the vaccine, do you believe CDC has investigated.
Did you actually watch this short video? Aaron Siri represented many physicians suffering from the jab at Sen Ron Johnson's hearing - YouTube
This man is the attorney for some Doctors who were originally in fear of reporting adverse events and or deaths as vaccine related.
Why were they in fear or reporting what they believed? What were they afraid of?
Is it a disgrace that in the United States of America they were and many still are afraid to report the truth?
This is not a pandemic. If they reported what they know as truth would that truth be the very proof of there not being a pandemic?
This is not true. Workman's Compensation provides a percentage of the employees weekly wage (66 2/3 %) as well as medical costs associated with the injury. Some states also provide loss of earning power benefits.
The percentage is based on the workers earnings, not the earnings of an entry level position (unless the worker is entry level).
At this time covid is a declared workplace hazard. Discussions about OSHA's decision are another debate.
At this time the FDA and CDC deems all three vaccines safe and effective. Discussions about this decision are also another topic.
There is absolute no reason to strip employers of the power to require vaccinations or immunizations. And there is no reason to mandate liability above providing workman's compensation insurance.
Businesses are not subject to follow conspiracy sites or their own set of "experts".
I agree that experimental vaccines should not be mandated.
But here we are not talking about mandating experimental vaccines. We are talking about business owners being free to make the decision to require a vaccine the FDA has declared safe and effective to mediate what OSHA has declared a workplace hazard.
The anti-covid-vaxer conspiracy theories that the vaccines are experimental, that the Freemasons are behind covid, and the virus is a new world conspiracy to decrease the world population should not even be serious considerations.
Yes, I do believe the CDC has investigated. This is evident by their suspension of the J&J vaccine and investigations of the Moderna vaccine
And the reports are public (you can see the data on the CDC website).
What you seem to want are those fake reports (many that were posted here over several montgs) to be on tge CDC website. But the CDC is not a gossip group or social media.
And if that was possible God forbid… I pray I would be in a position to depose you as a political terrorist to the Constitution of these UNited States… how does 20 years in prison strike you?
Oh it’s not experimental now?!? Come on… are you serious? There has been so many testimony’s to support adverse reactions. But you rejected them? If this country was to devolve into Australia or Canada then you will have drawn the line and there would be an armed revolt. I’m hoping you don’t press the situation… bloodshed is a mess to clean up and most haven’t the stomach for it.
Uh....yea. You are about 2 years behind the times.
The vaccines stopped being experimental long ago. The Pfizer vaccine has already been FDA approved and the Moderna/J&J vaccines have been approved for emergency use. Prior to that was the clinical trials.
None of the 3 vaccines used in the US have ever been approved for experimental use. That's just conspiracy theory.
negative.
not for any given worker. There's a cap, varies by state ... but it's not going to cover the lost income of someone who can never again do what they did.
You promote the cv vax and that makes you less than objective. Every argument is spun with "pro vax" ... you stipulate no mandate by govt, but when govt and big biz are in it together ... the effect is the same.
how'd you put it ... a distinction without a difference.
If we fail to recognize the right of a person to control what enters their bodies (as we recognize Holy Spirit Temples) ... then we're no better than the pagans who sacrificed their children to baal.
Then address the cap in the state of residency. It is a different issue.
I would consider a forced mandate to American individuals as an act of war to peoples rights as outlined in the constitution and react with armed insurrection… those are the results and the consequences of that action that violates the Constitution of the United States of America. Note that I’m not alone in my stance and the shots will then go beyond the epidermis of the skin.
In my family, I have an uncle who died in Market Garden fighting Nazis who’s agenda was to control people, I had a great grandfather who was chased by dogs but he successfully escaped communism to live in the States, where he built a business and took care of his family during the depression. He loved this country and was proud of his being a citizen. We have a deep love and a pride that we are free from tyranny and are more than ready to fight and die for those rights. Next to my front door is a sigh that I totally believe. It reads:
Freedom will be defended.
Nailed it!
no. address the insanity which presumes that mandating a vaccine in name only to combat a virus with only a 99% untreated survivability.
Big Biz and Big Govt conspiring. No difference. Still compulsory ... and no one is liable for the side effects.
Wrong.
You may disagree with the conclusion that vovid is a workplace hazard or that the vaccines are safe and effective. I wholeheartedly support your right to voice that opinion. But you are not the deciding factor. You are not in a position to make that call for the nation. Those in the opinion, across political lines, have already made that decision.
Trump and Biden agree that covid is a national danger. Both agree the vaccines are safe and effective. Apolitical agencies under both administration's came to that conclusion.