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Should unmarried people be arrested for living together?

Bro. Curtis

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As they were Jewish and seemed to keep Jewish customs of the day, i imagine it was probably a betrothal, which is a type of ceremony.



If the law requires a license to be married, why can I not say you are not in submission if you don't have one and are living as man and wife?

Sigh. Because it isn't illegal. What part of that don't you understand ?

In other words, the law DOESN'T require it.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Anyway Zaac, it's been a hoot.

I support curches being able to decide who they want in it, and who they don't.
 

Zaac

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Then find some verses to support it. You shouldn't just throw that "fornicator" word around. Show me a verse that says a pastor has to bless a relationship before God approves.

I didn't say a pastor has to bless it. But much like the Jewish ceremonies, there seems to be a need for witnesses and someone to join them into the covenant.

"The two are joined as one", and any relations outside it are adultery. That is the biblical mandate. Ceremonies are for the family and friends, not God.

If it were as simple as the two being joined as one, all sorts of teenagers and pre-marital sex participants are married.

The state requires a license. It is not submitting to the government authorities God places over one if the license purposely is not obtained.
 

Zaac

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Anyway Zaac, it's been a hoot.

I support curches being able to decide who they want in it, and who they don't.

And that's why the inside of Churches start to look just like the outside world. God should have a say so. And the churches standard for admission should be His.
 

OldRegular

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Zaac I agree with essentially everything you have posted [on this thread].

John 2:1, 2.
1. And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:
2. And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage.


It seems to me that there is too much in Scripture indicating that marriage between a man and woman needs a public declaration of such to simply ignore it. The problem created by ignoring such a public proclamation/ceremony is also demonstrated in the following Scripture.

Hebrews 13:4. Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

How are people and in certain cases the local Body to know whether people are "shacking up", that is, they are fornicators, or are married in the eyes of God? It does make a big, big difference. Far too many local Churches live with adulterers and fornicators in their membership.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I'm glad you said that. Yes, and scripture says all you have to do to be a fornicator or adulterer is WANT to. I agree. Church is full of people who look at each other's mates, who let their daughters dress like tramps, yet worry about what everyone else does.

And if indeed, God can only bless a relationship after a preacher has, it should be easy to prove.
 

freeatlast

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from http://www.alternet.org/story/15616...of_marriage_?akid=9020.85218.tq3vtZ&rd=1&t=18

Cohabitation is still a crime in five states — the four Southern states and Michigan. Yes, no one has been arrested for cohabitation in recent years but there are a few situations in which the fact that it’s criminal can be used against people. There’s the example of Michael Schiavo, Terri Schiavo’s husband, who was denied guardianship of his wife because her parents went to court saying he broke the law of Florida because he was living with his girlfriend."

When My #2 daughter finished college she shared an apartment with two old high school friends. Should she have been arrested? (Sidebar-She married one of them and now they are expecting their 2nd child.)

Bill if that is the law then the answer is YES!
 

Alcott

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Should unmarried people be arrested for living together?

As opposed to dying together, or what?
 

Jedi Knight

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for you have had five husbands, and you aren't even married to the man you're living with now. You certainly spoke the truth!"
John 4:18 Can you say......BUSTED!?!?
 

ktn4eg

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Let's see.....I somehow quite vaguely recall that somebody somewhere way long ago said something to the effect about those being without any sin can line up right here....I've got some stones here for you to throw.

Can't for the life of me remember who that might have been though.

Can any of you out there in BB [as opposed to, say, LA LA] land come to my rescue and tell me if I'm just hallucinating or did that actually happen somewhere in the dimly lit remote corners of time some two centuries ago???

:smilewinkgrin::smilewinkgrin:
 

freeatlast

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Let's see.....I somehow quite vaguely recall that somebody somewhere way long ago said something to the effect about those being without any sin can line up right here....I've got some stones here for you to throw.

Can't for the life of me remember who that might have been though.

Can any of you out there in BB [as opposed to, say, LA LA] land come to my rescue and tell me if I'm just hallucinating or did that actually happen somewhere in the dimly lit remote corners of time some two centuries ago???

:smilewinkgrin::smilewinkgrin:
apples and oranges.
 

Magnetic Poles

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I don't have a problem telling folks they are doing something contrary to the way God's word prescribes.

Does Montana not require a marriage license?Has the pastor joined them before God during a ceremony?

There has got to be something more than just an unmarried couple who have had sex and then declared themselves to be married, thereby declaring all future sexual relations to be moral and God-honoring.

I don't know about Montana, but in Colorado, you can marry yourselves. No officiant needed.
 

Bro. Curtis

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I don't know about Montana, but in Colorado, you can marry yourselves. No officiant needed.


Hey, look at that. M.P. and me on the same side.

As far as John 4:18, it falls short of what constitutes BEING married. How's come nobody can show me the "thou shalt have a man who leads a church pronounce you married before you have s3x" verse.

So, no......not busted.
 

Matt Black

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Curtis, you're gonna be even more surprised because I'm on the same page with you on this one too :smilewinkgrin:
 
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