In another thread the subject came up of women voting in business meetings.
From post # 34
Should they or shouldn't they?
From post # 34
Should they or shouldn't they?
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Should women vote in Business meetings?
- Thread starter Salty
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Particular Baptist Benjamin Keach, 1697, The Glory of a True Church, And Its Discipline Display'd: Wherein a True Gospel-Church is Described:
http://tei.it.ox.ac.uk/tcp/Texts-HTML/free/A47/A47522.html#index.xml-body.1_div.9
"The Sisters are not to vote in the Church."
http://tei.it.ox.ac.uk/tcp/Texts-HTML/free/A47/A47522.html#index.xml-body.1_div.9
"The Sisters are not to vote in the Church."
The constitution of Baptist microdenomination 'ARBCA' (Association of Reformed Baptist Churches of America) specifies that:
Wives are dismissed to a tea party during the annual meeting part of the General Assembly:
2018 ARBCA General Assemby
Wives are dismissed to a tea party during the annual meeting part of the General Assembly:
2018 ARBCA General Assemby
I believe Morgan Edwards in his Customs of Primitive Churches (1768) took the position that only the male members could vote. I'll have to double check to be certain.
We studied this issue back in the 1980s in our church. There were questions about it. We came to the conclusion that women could/should vote in conference.
The biblical examples of congregational decisions illustrate that the women took part. Acts 1:12-26 records the selection of one to fill Judas’ office. The assembly was made up of about 120 people (v. 15), which included women (v. 14). They, the 120, appointed two men, and they, the 120, gave forth their lots and chose Matthias. So this selection process included the women.
Acts 6:1-7 tells of the selection of the first seven deacons. The seven were chosen by “they” — which refers to the multitude of the disciples (vs. 1,2,5), and this included widows (who are always women).
In the council meeting of Acts chapter 15, the final decision was made by the whole church (v. 22), which included women as well as men. We concur from these three examples that the women should vote.
Although the women voted, it was the men who provided the leadership.
We studied this issue back in the 1980s in our church. There were questions about it. We came to the conclusion that women could/should vote in conference.
The biblical examples of congregational decisions illustrate that the women took part. Acts 1:12-26 records the selection of one to fill Judas’ office. The assembly was made up of about 120 people (v. 15), which included women (v. 14). They, the 120, appointed two men, and they, the 120, gave forth their lots and chose Matthias. So this selection process included the women.
Acts 6:1-7 tells of the selection of the first seven deacons. The seven were chosen by “they” — which refers to the multitude of the disciples (vs. 1,2,5), and this included widows (who are always women).
In the council meeting of Acts chapter 15, the final decision was made by the whole church (v. 22), which included women as well as men. We concur from these three examples that the women should vote.
Although the women voted, it was the men who provided the leadership.
Hard to vote while being silent.
I say no.
My husband was a pastor. He is now home with the Lord. I have never been in a Baptist church where women could not vote. If I could not vote I would be going else where to church.
Several decades ago my eldest brother, who is now 86, was having woman problems and was talking to our dad to get some advice. My brother was ranting and said "They are nothing but trouble! We should never have given them the vote!" Dad responded, "The vote is not the problem. We should never have taught them to talk!"
It would seem the Philadelphia Association held to similar sentiments. The women could vote, they just couldn't talk while doing so.
It would seem the Philadelphia Association held to similar sentiments. The women could vote, they just couldn't talk while doing so.
I would say yes, as do not see this in any way violate the principle of the women taking authority from/over male leadership!
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Several decades ago my eldest brother, who is now 86, was having woman problems an was talking to our dad to get some advice. My brother was ranting and said "They are nothing but trouble! We should never have given them the vote!" Dad responded, "The vote is not the problem. We should never have taught them to talk!"
It would seem the Philadelphia Association held to similar sentiments. The women could vote, they just couldn't talk while doing so.
Not even close.....
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Yes. If they are a member of the church, then they should have a say, just like any male members.
In the opening pages of human history there was not vote taken.
Eve was deceived and Adam took and swallowed whatever she dished out. History hasn't changed from that time.
There is a place for the women to have a perspective, and even voice a concern.
But the final choice always (as it was with Adam) must be the man. The man must either take whatever is dished out, or truly seek the Lord for guidance in all matters of both Spirit and of the fleshly needs.
Eve was deceived and Adam took and swallowed whatever she dished out. History hasn't changed from that time.
There is a place for the women to have a perspective, and even voice a concern.
But the final choice always (as it was with Adam) must be the man. The man must either take whatever is dished out, or truly seek the Lord for guidance in all matters of both Spirit and of the fleshly needs.
Yes
No, that is exactly what he said. I know. I was there.