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Show Me The Proof.

poncho

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If anyone here who has been claiming Russia has invaded Ukraine without provocation can provide solid evidence that it is indeed the case please do it here.

Snears jeers and smears are not solid evidence.
 
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Jordan Kurecki

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a preacher at a fellowship meeting I was at recently said that a missionary family he knows there told him that Russia has invaded Ukraine.
 

InTheLight

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If anyone here who has been claiming Russia has invaded Ukraine without provocation can provide solid evidence that it is indeed the case please do it here.

Snears jeers and smears are not solid evidence.

So you're saying Russia has invaded Ukraine. OK, now that you've admitted that, please tell us--what was the provocation?
 

poncho

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So you're saying Russia has invaded Ukraine. OK, now that you've admitted that, please tell us--what was the provocation?

That's not what I'm saying and you know it. Playing the twist the meaning game instead of providing evidence just goes to show the lack of evidence.

Show me the proof.
 

InTheLight

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That's not what I'm saying and you know it. Playing the twist the meaning game instead of providing evidence just goes to show the lack of evidence.

Show me the proof.

So, Russia has not invaded Ukraine? Is that what you are saying?
 

InTheLight

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He says show him the proof.

It's hard to know what he's saying. He makes conditional statements that beg the question, i.e. "If anyone here who has been claiming Russia has invaded Ukraine without provocation..." and then refuses to answer a direct yes or no question.
 

Revmitchell

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It's hard to know what he's saying. He makes conditional statements that beg the question, i.e. "If anyone here who has been claiming Russia has invaded Ukraine without provocation..." and then refuses to answer a direct yes or no question.

If he answers direct questions his assertions fall apart. What he is trying to say is Russia had every right to go into Crimea and we should stay out of it. But in order to do that he plays word games.
 

InTheLight

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If he answers direct questions his assertions fall apart. What he is trying to say is Russia had every right to go into Crimea and we should stay out of it. But in order to do that he plays word games.

So true. Conspiracy theorists are all about innuendo, leading questions, ducking answers, and question begging. So nothing new here, I guess.
 

Sapper Woody

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I see nothing wrong with asking someone to provide proof of what they assert. Saying, "If you believe this, show me why" isn't question begging. Admittedly, it is a challenge. One which only one post has done anything to answer; the rest have been obvious twists, flames, or blatant attempts at derailing.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree. I'm just asking if we could have a civil discussion on an item instead of resorting to what amounts to playground taunting.
 

go2church

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Would any "proof" offered be accepted? Isn't the media in on the whole one world, take over everyone agenda?
 

InTheLight

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I see nothing wrong with asking someone to provide proof of what they assert. Saying, "If you believe this, show me why" isn't question begging.

"If anyone here who has been claiming Russia has invaded Ukraine without provocation..."

...is the definition of question begging.
 
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