Since God Himself Discriminates, why can't we also do that?

[OldRegular]

I was thinking mainly about those withint he body that profess jesus has saved them, but also refusing to either label a sinful behaviour as being such, or refusing to even try to deal with it!

Sadly the following Scripture describes many professing Christians:

Romans 1:32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

 

[convicted1]

Sadly the following Scripyure describes many professing Christians:

Romans 1:32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

:thumbsup::thumbs::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[pinoybaptist]

Also have the responsibility to influence and change the moral climate of the land, for if christians did not rise up to have slavery in England andUS abolished...

For as long as the Body of jesus is here, we are to proclaim his name, and also to influnce the culture with salt and light!

which is different from confronting a PERSON, who is not a believer, about his sin.

 

[Aaron]

Evangelist: Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Flee from the wrath to come.

Pagan: Wrath for what?

Evangelist: _____________________________
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Finish the conversation.

 

[Zaac]

So in other words, we can't tell people they sin and are sinners if they are not in the body? How do we then tell people they are in need of a Savior?

Love them and tell them about Jesus and why He came. People know that they have done wrong. The problem of a lot of folks in the church is that we want to beat them down about their sin as though it's different from our own.

Sin can be spoken of in general without beating people down about one particular sin. If they ask , then explain to them that Scripture says that ALL have sinned.

 

[Zaac]

well, since we cannot even label homosexuality, false views on salvation, the bible etc anymore by many ewithin the church, as that would be "judging", guess anything goes!

Scripture calls for right judgment. Your judgment ,as is the judgment of many of the homosexual offense and abortion, remains unrighteous and absent love.

You're too busy trying to win an argument to righteously judge and point these people to Christ.

 

[Yeshua1]

Love them and tell them about Jesus and why He came. People know that they have done wrong. The problem of a lot of folks in the church is that we want to beat them down about their sin as though it's different from our own.

Sin can be spoken of in general without beating people down about one particular sin. If they ask , then explain to them that Scripture says that ALL have sinned.

also warn them that God will require them to do thinsg His way going forward, as made new in christ, so he qill not allow for "i am now saved, but still free to keep on behaving as I was, in active gay lifestyle!"

 

[Yeshua1]

Scripture calls for right judgment. Your judgment ,as is the judgment of many of the homosexual offense and abortion, remains unrighteous and absent love.

You're too busy trying to win an argument to righteously judge and point these people to Christ.

So paul was without love in Romasn chapter One, and God was in Sodom also?

the message is BOTh Love and wrath, for if one refused His love, gets His wrath!

For the biblical truth is "jesus loved you enough to accept you just as you are, but he desires you to NOT remain just as you are!"

And all must take up their own Cross daily, as to liar must strive to stop that, luster strive to stop that, and th Gay operson must cease frombeing active in that behaviour/lifestyle now!

 

[Zaac]

also warn them that God will require them to do thinsg His way going forward,

Umm, nope. That ain't got nothing to do with sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If you want to get into that while discipling someone after they are saved, go right ahead. But it has nothing to do with pointing folks to Christ in repentance to be saved.

as made new in christ, so he qill not allow for "i am now saved, but still free to keep on behaving as I was, in active gay lifestyle!"

You got problems SMH. In Annsi's response to which I responded, she didn't mention anything about gay nor did I. But you make a beeline to pointing out the gay sin while leaving all the others out.

That again STILL has nothing to do with pointing the lost to Christ to be saved. You continue to show that you're too busy trying to win an argument while showing little to no concern about these people's eternity.

 

[Zaac]

So paul was without love in Romasn chapter One, and God was in Sodom also?

I didn't mention Paul. I mentioned YOU.

the message is BOTh Love and wrath, for if one refused His love, gets His wrath!

God's message of love cannot be separated from His wrath. Your message of wrathe definitely seems to have separated itself from God's love.

For the biblical truth is "jesus loved you enough to accept you just as you are, but he desires you to NOT remain just as you are!"

Again, something to be addressed AFTER a person accepts Christ in repentance.

And all must take up their own Cross daily, as to liar must strive to stop that, luster strive to stop that, and th Gay operson must cease frombeing active in that behaviour/lifestyle now!

We were discussing people outside the church. What Cross are they taking up? They are still lost.

 

[Yeshua1]

I didn't mention Paul. I mentioned YOU.



God's message of love cannot be separated from His wrath. Your message of wrathe definitely seems to have separated itself from God's love.



Again, something to be addressed AFTER a person accepts Christ in repentance.



We were discussing people outside the church. What Cross are they taking up? They are still lost.

I am speaking towards the more common it seems daily held belief that once saved by Jesus, a Homosexual has no need to repent and change that lifestyle, as if God no longer says that is sin, but that they are told to just keep on doing it. as long as its done in a "loving and commited relationship!"

 

[quantumfaith]

I am speaking towards the more common it seems daily held belief that once saved by Jesus, a Homosexual has no need to repent and change that lifestyle, as if God no longer says that is sin, but that they are told to just keep on doing it. as long as its done in a "loving and commited relationship!"

And what of such a person who repents and professes Christ.....if they continue to battle with their sin, often losing the battle......is your JUDGEMENT that they simply are not "saved"?

 

[Zaac]

I am speaking towards the more common it seems daily held belief that once saved by Jesus, a Homosexual has no need to repent and change that lifestyle, as if God no longer says that is sin, but that they are told to just keep on doing it. as long as its done in a "loving and commited relationship!"

You're stuck on homosexuals. That's not the premise with which you started the thread so the mods should close this.

We were talking about judging outside the church and here you go again making this into a conversation about homosexuals you don't think are saved.

Srat another thread and get them to pin it to the top for you so that you can talk about that one sin all day if you like. :thumbsup:

 

[Yeshua1]

And what of such a person who repents and professes Christ.....if they continue to battle with their sin, often losing the battle......is your JUDGEMENT that they simply are not "saved"?

No, NOT saying that a real Christian cannot sin any more, nor that he ould have sin battles to wage in some areas until death, but am saying that a saved gay person cannot just treast it as still acceptable and normal to just kepp on have homosexual behaviour going down, with iout ANY repentence/remorsh/attempt to change etc!

Its their view on that behaviour, is it sinful, and they are trying to cease, even thoguh they might fall at times, or are they jut keep doing as is, without any desire to change?

NOT sinless perfection state, but at least a desire and attempt to change to conduct themselves as God requires ow needed!

Just saying many churches, even pastors saying no big deal, God loves you, created you, just stay commited to your partner is all God asks is what I am against here!