So where will all that 'legal' pot come from?

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

Yes, and underage drinking is a big problem in the U.S.

Then why is alcohol legal? If pot is illegal shouldn't alcohol be?

 

[InTheLight]

If pot were run like most states run liquor stores then there would be no real impact on youth access. They do what they want to get what they want now, and that won't change.

Underage drinking is a problem. I'd venture to say it wasn't as big of a problem in the 20's, on a per-capita basis among teens.

Remove that "doing this feeds my rebellious and adventure seeking" tendencies and use goes down. There is sure to be a spike at first as people want to experience the novelty of legal pot, but then it would become old news and lose its appeal.

I'm talking about people under the age of 21.

If I kept these things hidden and mysterious, as opposed to a healthy and honest approach, there can be only trouble.

I see....so the same philosophy would apply to sex as well.

 

[InTheLight]

Then why is alcohol legal? If pot is illegal shouldn't alcohol be?

Pot is not the same as alcohol. Alcohol has a long tradition of acceptance by society. Keep going down your logic tree and pretty soon we will have arguments for the legalization of cocaine, heroin, etc.

My point is that making pot legal will make it easier for teens to gain access to it. Making pot legal would cause people that had never tried it to give it a whirl. Who knows how many people will become constant users?

 

[poncho]

Yes, and underage drinking is a big problem in the U.S.

True but on the other hand we don't see gangs of teens shooting each other and innocent bystanders up fighting over the control of "booze" turf.

My point is that making pot legal will make it easier for teens to gain access to it. Making pot legal would cause people that had never tried it to give it a whirl. Who knows how many people will become constant users?

That's like the old fallacy of pot being a "gateway drug". Listen to what Law Enforcement Against Prohibition has to say. They address all your concerns in one 14 minute video.

 

[mont974x4]

Yes, ITL, I know you are thinking of the under 21 crowd. I addressed that. I understand your concern, and see it as unfounded.


Yes, as to sex, I hold to the same ideal. God made sex and it is a wonderful thing. It is not taboo. It is not dirty. When we recognize the dangers and the joys of sex we do well. When we teach what the Bible actually says about it we do well. When we enjoy sex as God ordained it, in the joys of the marital bed, it is a wonderful thing. I have 4 sons. Each are being taught this, at age appropriate levels.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

My main opposition to legalization of pot is that minors would have greater access to it. It would be readily available, at lower prices, and higher potency. Studies show that pot use in children/teens with developing brains is very detrimental to adult intelligence. Legalizing pot could lead to a generation of people with underdeveloped brains.

Most of the arguments in favor of legalization make a lot of sense, I just can't get past this counterargument.

My friendly neighborhood drug pusher has kids selling all sorts of drugs to kids of all ages.....word on the street is anyone with cash is a client. Believe me, minors already have access to it. By legalizing it, you are taking the profit out of it for my friendly neighborhood drug dealer (a professing Baptist BTW). However the dumbing down characteristics are a consideration ...as it is with alcohol. But at least you could monitor it & maybe raise money to research it if it were legalized. Then old friendly could really concentrate on where he scores the best profitability......filling scripts from scummy doctors for prescriptions like Vicodin (and he still will sell them to kids, your wife, you....again anyone with cash on the counter).

 

[poncho]

Children and the War on Drugs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cZ241khadYA#!

 

[padredurand]

Pot grows wild in almost every field, ditch, and roadside from California to Virginia. And, yes, the cows notice. And love it! They eat it and get all silly, running around the pasture and kicking up their hooves.

Explains why they graze all day.:flower:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Explains why they graze all day.:flower:

Do they have the munchies? You know the saying about happy cows! :laugh:

 

[LadyEagle]

Hehe.

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[TCassidy]

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[poncho]

Studies also show that fluoride and psychotropic drugs are dangerous to developing brains and yet our leaders and physicians are still pumping our kids full of both. We now have a whole generation of people out there that have grown up taking psychotropic drugs that have been shown to cause both violent and suicidal tendencies. No one really knows what the long term effects on society this is going to have.

Recently the findings from a long term study of pot use has come out that shows marijuana not linked with long term cognitive impairment.

But what about all the prior research linking cannabis with lasting negative effects on cognition? Those studies may have been confounded by the fact that in many cases, heavy users were tested after being abstinent for only one day — so their performance could have been affected either by residual marijuana in their systems or by irritability or other effects of withdrawal. Studies that have looked at heavy users after longer periods of abstinence generally concur with the new research, finding no lingering effect on cognition.


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[Earth Wind and Fire]

Pot is not the same as alcohol. Alcohol has a long tradition of acceptance by society. Keep going down your logic tree and pretty soon we will have arguments for the legalization of cocaine, heroin, etc.

My point is that making pot legal will make it easier for teens to gain access to it. Making pot legal would cause people that had never tried it to give it a whirl. Who knows how many people will become constant users?

ITL....they are going to do that anyway!

 

[TCassidy]

Ritalin is an amphetamine. In street lingo, it's called "speed."

Actually, no. Ritalin is methylphenidate. It is a dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor. Chemically it is much closer to cocaine than anything else although it is less potent and it effects last longer.

But I agree, it is probably the most over prescribed on the market.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

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