Somali leader: Hunt down and kill Pope Benedict XVI

What is unbelievable is that you seem to be a Catholic apologist. I never said the pope should be killed. The point is why are you concerned about two heretical groups that get into an argument. Muslims may be violent, but they are not stupid. So according to your theory, if Adrian Rogers said something similar, they would go after Catholics because they perceive all of us as Christians.

If pope baby cant take the heat, maybe he needs to keep his big mouth shut.

 

Once again SN, you are way off base. Show me where I have been a Catholic apologist.

As for wanting the Pope to "keep his big mouth shut", as a free man, he has the right to free speech, just as you and I do. He is free to speak, he is free to be right and free to be wrong. And just as many Christians broad brush all Muslims, I imagine many Muslims broad brush all Christians as being the same. If any group advocates murder, I will speak out. That is NOT apologetics, but being a decent human being.

 

No one individual represents all Muslims, just as no one individual represents all Christians.

Now, if only everyone understood that!

 

The notion of "broadbrushing" all of any religion is nothing but ignroance. You are creating a frame of reference on the basis of ignorance for all of your premises.

Yes the pope is free to speak as we all are. With freedom comes consequences. Sometimes it is wise to think before you speak, especially in a leadership position.

It is also your freedom to defend the pope. Don't expect others to do the same.

 

SN, what in the world are you rambling about?

 

I don't know. But the Roman Catholic church is not just a religious entity, it is also a political entity, with its own state and ambassadors, and whether Roman Catholics like it or not, admit it or , or know it or not, they are not only members of that religion, in effect they are subjects of that state.

So what the Head of State says, rubs on all its "citizens" even though the individual citizen may be at variance with state pronouncements and directions.

So my statement was focused on the office, not the person.

 

mmm ...

I think that Jesus Christ is representative of all Christians. Any time that I am not reflecting him, I am in sin.

IMHO. I do not think that this was what you were referring to. But, just in case.

 

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You missed my point. It is silly to call up the past and apply it to those who did not take part in it. The pope is not guilty of any wrongs commited by those in the past. So your comparison is not really a comparison.

 

Amen! Unfortunately I was thinking of current humanity. He most certainly represents me. Would that I could represent Him as He wills. I realize how short I fall.

 

The Pope's comments were misinterpreted. It's a sad day when freedom of speech is stiffled because of fearing nuts will explode in the streets. It's even sadder when Christians side in with those who wish to stiffle freedom of speech.

Also, the Pope never backtracked. Let's get the facts straight as to what exactly the Pope has said (both times), not as it has been misconstrued by those who hate Christianity and are commanded by their "holy" book to kill all of us infidels wherever they find us.

 

Amen

Amen

Amen

 

Exactly!:thumbs:

 

Now there is a call to attack Christianity until islam rules the world.

 

More like you missed my point. The Roman Catholic institution is as guilty of what we, Roman Catholics or otherwise, accuse Muslims of, "conversion by the sword", which is what the dead pope quoted by this living pope was accusing Mohammed of.

The individual's opinion in chronological time is overshadowed by facts of history. He was accusing Mohammed of what his predecessors were equally guilty of.

The German politicians of today may not agree with Nazism and Hitler, but the fact remains that their country produced Nazism.

 

I didnt miss your point at all. The past of catholiscism or germany is irrelevent. The leaders today do not support the atrocities of the past therefore they are not guilty of those things. Except with Islam. The vast majority of Islam does support Mohammads teachings. The comparison is worthless. such a peaceful religion.

 

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