Some abortion mills are closing

[Salty]

And, in the 2030 election, that vaccines were safe and effective, so people should get vaccinated.

So, Jon - how often do you Time travel?

 

[Reynolds]

Well, I suppose you can, but you'd have to prioritize so many things as more important than the abortion issue. You'd still be supporting abortion, but your support may not reflect your actual values.

It's the same with the GOP. Some Republicans may not agree with everything the GOP does, but in the end they support it all by their vote.

The covid vaccines are a good example. The GOP stand is that they are effective, and while they should not be mandated people should be encouraged to take them. Many Republicans are anti-covid-vaxers. But their voice in the 2020 election supported vaccinations (even though they personally did not).

The GOP posit

It is. But in the 2029 election their position was that the Trump Administration has provided three safe and effective vaccines and everyone should be vaccinated. Trump emphasized this at his Alabama rally. Many got mad, but they still supported Trump. The GOP stance post election was that they had provided safe and effective vaccines but the Biden Administration dropped the ball in terms of logistics.

People ignore what they want to ignore.

Trump said should, but will not be coerced or mandated.

 

[JonC]

So, Jon - how often do you Time travel?

Twice a year. You wouldn't think Trump and Biden would be going at it in 2029, but they are.

 

[JonC]

The GOP posit

Trump said should, but will not be coerced or mandated.

Yes, I agree.

But at the same time (during the Trump Administration) the military regs were changed to allow forced vaccinations for those in service.

 

[Revmitchell]

Yes, I agree.

But at the same time (during the Trump Administration) the military regs were changed to allow forced vaccinations for those in service.

So what?

 

[JonC]

So what?

So I think it is a bad idea. Before you force a shot, just let the people go.

Why did you support the GOP move to allow forced vaccinations of our service members?

 

[Revmitchell]

So I think it is a bad idea. Before you force a shot, just let the people go.

Why did you support the GOP move to allow forced vaccinations of our service members?

Sigh, service members have always had "forced" vaccinations. They even took out my wisdom teeth that had nothing wrong with them. In the service our bodies are not our own. Not an equal comparison to anything else.

 

[Salty]

Sigh, service members have always had "forced" vaccinations. They even took out my wisdom teeth that had nothing wrong with them. In the service our bodies are not our own. Not an equal comparison to anything else.

I've been told that you could get an Article 15 for getting sunburned!

 

[Revmitchell]

I've been told that you could get an Article 15 for getting sunburned!

Before I joined the Marine Corps Rodeo Team I had to get my CO's written permission. Anything with a risk of injury or death not sanctioned by the Military can get you in trouble. If you get sunburned and it effects your ability to do your mission then yes it can get you in trouble.

 

[JonC]

Sigh, service members have always had "forced" vaccinations. They even took out my wisdom teeth that had nothing wrong with them. In the service our bodies are not our own. Not an equal comparison to anything else.

No. Service members could decline vaccines in the past.

You even acknowledged this:

. . . I used to refuse the flu shot every year never got in trouble. Under Trump this wouldn’t be going on.

Point being, it was under Trump that military members could be forced to take a vaccine (not dishonorably discharged if they done, but actually forced to be vaccinated).

AR 600-20 (paragraph 5-4) states that when it is determined the "threat of naturally occurring disease is reasonably possible soldiers may be involuntarily immunized" and performing this duty, unit personnel will "only use the amount of force necessary to assist medical personnel in administering the immunization."

Buy....this was a change. Paragraph 5-4 was added July 2020. Kinda strange timing. What vaccines would the Administration in charge be so concerned about, I wonder, that would warrant such a change? Maybe it was just a bad flu season.

So exactly how would this not happen under the Trump Administration? What Administration was in control in 2020?

 

[JonC]

Before I joined the Marine Corps Rodeo Team I had to get my CO's written permission. Anything with a risk of injury or death not sanctioned by the Military can get you in trouble. If you get sunburned and it effects your ability to do your mission then yes it can get you in trouble.

Not only that, but if you get sunburned while working your squad leader to platoon leader can get in trouble.