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Some Basic Info On John Calvin

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Rippon

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Your frequent charges of lying and multiple charges of blasphemy against members of the body of Christ, because they disagree with your OPINION, taints your witness, in my opinion.

As I have said before:A lie,is a lie,is a lie. And nothing can change that fact. Intentional lies have been said by others about the life of Calvin. You can't just dismiss it out-of-hand. No primary sources were noted. And not one,but two "articles" filled with untruths were posted. Do you think lies should be allowed to stand? Of course not.


"He must be reckoned as one of the greatest and best men God raised up in the history of Christianty." (p.137)."

Amen!
 
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Rippon

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Something else needs to be said about lying. A certain poster made a pledge in the past,roughly 4 and a half years ago that he would never say anyting more about the man John Calvin. And he made the same promise a day or so ago. I guess he finds it hard to keep his word.
 
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Robert Snow

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Everything I said was factually true. You are free not to like the content,but you are not free to make up stuff that contradicts the facts.

Please document any falsehoods you believe that I posted. If you can't, then you are not contributing anything of value.

You can call them facts if you want, but that doesn't make them true. Most of your rantings are based upon your wondrous ability to cut and paste and, evidently a lot of spare time to scour the Internet looking for those who agree with you.

I don't know why it bothers you that everyone doesn't agree with you concerning the NIV, but in spite of your ramblings, everyone will chose for themselves regardless how many pages you post saying hooray for my side!
 

Rippon

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You can call them facts if you want, but that doesn't make them true.

Facts by very definition are true. Is that news for you?


I don't know why it bothers you that everyone doesn't agree with you concerning the NIV, but in spite of your ramblings, everyone will chose for themselves regardless how many pages you post saying hooray for my side!

You are confused and need reorientation. This thread has nothing to do with Bible translations!
 

Rippon

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I challenge anyone to go to my OP and take it apart factually if you are able. Dispute what you may with facts. Document anything you think are falsehoods.

Don't merely bandy bad words and ill-temper;displaying for all the world to see your sub-Christian character. I would like to see someone go to primary sources (that does not mean Ruckman,Rice etc.) and prove me wrong.

It is so easy for some of you to just pelt without thought of the consequences. Strive to be godly. Live up to the faith you profess.
 

Oldtimer

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I challenge anyone to go to my OP and take it apart factually if you are able. Dispute what you may with facts. Document anything you think are falsehoods.

Don't merely bandy bad words and ill-temper;displaying for all the world to see your sub-Christian character. I would like to see someone go to primary sources (that does not mean Ruckman,Rice etc.) and prove me wrong.

It is so easy for some of you to just pelt without thought of the consequences. Strive to be godly. Live up to the faith you profess.

Practice what you preach, Brother. Practice what you preach.

When I referenced another thread via linking rather than quoting content, you couldn't resist bringing in content that had nothing to do with this thread. Even though I asked you not to include other BB members in reference to my post, you had to drag someone in, anyway.

Over the years, I've learned that most people reflect the attributes of their mentors. Sometimes positive. Sometimes negative. Sometimes something inbetween. I take it that John Calvin is a form of "mentor" in your life. You want me to give time and energy to study him and his writings. To incorporate his views into my thinking. Yet, if you are, indeed, showing some degree of reflection of him, then, perhaps that isn't a place that I want to go.

In closing and for whatever it may be worth.....

Everyone of us should be reflecting the attributes of the greatest Mentor who ever walked on this earth. Sadly, sometimes I fail miserably, when I forget that, even for a moment. :tear: Especially when I sitting at this keyboard. Trying hard to practice what I preach sometimes requires that I sit on my hands to keep them off the keys. :type:
 

saturneptune

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Practice what you preach, Brother. Practice what you preach.

When I referenced another thread via linking rather than quoting content, you couldn't resist bringing in content that had nothing to do with this thread. Even though I asked you not to include other BB members in reference to my post, you had to drag someone in, anyway.

Over the years, I've learned that most people reflect the attributes of their mentors. Sometimes positive. Sometimes negative. Sometimes something inbetween. I take it that John Calvin is a form of "mentor" in your life. You want me to give time and energy to study him and his writings. To incorporate his views into my thinking. Yet, if you are, indeed, showing some degree of reflection of him, then, perhaps that isn't a place that I want to go.

In closing and for whatever it may be worth.....

Everyone of us should be reflecting the attributes of the greatest Mentor who ever walked on this earth. Sadly, sometimes I fail miserably, when I forget that, even for a moment. :tear: Especially when I sitting at this keyboard. Trying hard to practice what I preach sometimes requires that I sit on my hands to keep them off the keys. :type:
Best post of the thread, and advice I need to take more often. I can remember, from an earthly standpoint, a "mentor" that really impressed me as a young person and adult that was good for this country was Richard Nixon when elected President in 1968. As the economy improved, the civil unrest calmed down, and we withdrew from Vietnam gradually, that this was the man we needed. I was in the service and voted for his reelection in 1972. He actually came to our base in 1973, and I got to shake his hand.

Shortly after that, the Watergate mess started, and I took that as an attempt by the press and the liberals to harm what he had accomplished. As time passed, it became apparant he had abused his office, and lied to the American people. At that point, liberal and conservative become immaterial. For the mistake it turned out to be, I voted for Carter in 1976 because of the pardon. I think the lesson is no human is a mentor that is beyond disappointing a person.

Here are some pictures I snapped of him with a brownie camera.
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Berean

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Practice what you preach, Brother. Practice what you preach.

When I referenced another thread via linking rather than quoting content, you couldn't resist bringing in content that had nothing to do with this thread. Even though I asked you not to include other BB members in reference to my post, you had to drag someone in, anyway.

Over the years, I've learned that most people reflect the attributes of their mentors. Sometimes positive. Sometimes negative. Sometimes something inbetween. I take it that John Calvin is a form of "mentor" in your life. You want me to give time and energy to study him and his writings. To incorporate his views into my thinking. Yet, if you are, indeed, showing some degree of reflection of him, then, perhaps that isn't a place that I want to go.

In closing and for whatever it may be worth.....

Everyone of us should be reflecting the attributes of the greatest Mentor who ever walked on this earth. Sadly, sometimes I fail miserably, when I forget that, even for a moment. :tear: Especially when I sitting at this keyboard. Trying hard to practice what I preach sometimes requires that I sit on my hands to keep them off the keys. :type:
Why is it every time The Doctrine of Grace, Sola Gratia or the mention of John Calvin seems the arouse the venom in so many members?
 

Aaron

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I wonder how many threads he's going to start or resurrect to propagandize about and idolize the murderer Calvin.
Despite all Calvin's supposed character flaws, he was eminently more qualified to preach than any that has weighed in on this thread.

Would to God your sins were as trifling as his.
 

saturneptune

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Why is it every time The Doctrine of Grace, Sola Gratia or the mention of John Calvin seems the arouse the venom in so many members?
Because his name is attached to a holy doctrine and he himself is a thug, murderer, liar, and a false witness.
 

saturneptune

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Despite all Calvin's supposed character flaws, he was eminently more qualified to preach than any that has weighed in on this thread.

Would to God your sins were as trifling as his.
Funny, in my entire life, I never murdered or tortured anyone, neither did I publish documents that said one thing while I did another. (church and state for example of many)
 

Rippon

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I challenge anyone to go to my OP and take it apart factually if you are able. Dispute what you may with facts. Document anything you think are falsehoods.

Don't merely bandy bad words and ill-temper;displaying for all the world to see your sub-Christian character. I would like to see someone go to primary sources (that does not mean Ruckman,Rice etc.) and prove me wrong.

It is so easy for some of you to just pelt without thought of the consequences. Strive to be godly. Live up to the faith you profess.

I note that nobody has the wherewithal to counter my OP with sound documentation.
 
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