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Some Basic Info On John Calvin

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Yeshua1

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Those with a bit of Scriptural literacy will immediately recognize that I have been listing the false accusations of Christ by them that were scholastic paragons.

Every accusation of Calvin in this thread is false, but then hatred of the Gospel isn't a fruit of one's learning, but of his character.

But even if the accusations were true, would to God the worst thing that one could say of me (and any of you) is that I burned one who attributed the knowledge of the Trinity to the Devil.

So, this October I will celebrate my betters by making smores over a glowing effigy of Servetus.
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http://www.banneroftruth.org/pages/articles/article_detail.php?457

what happened in Isreal with someone would blasheme the name of yahweh?
 

Rippon

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And here is the reason you have no moral authority

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD0AHBQI4WI

As I have said several times and it bears repeating:You have no discernment spiritual and otherwise. You don't recognize lies because you are so used to them.

"He [Calvin] murdered many people." False.

Calvin"insisted green wood be used." False. He wasn't in any manner "in charge' of the proceedings.

"Thirtyfour women were burned at the stake as witches by Calvin." That is absolutely untrue.

"Servetus was a longtime friend of Cavin's." Nope;not at all.

"Fiftyeight sentences of death were carried out under Calvin." Pure bunk.

When it was said that the doctrine of election forces the elect to believe. That is absurd. Calvinists and Calvin himself have never taught such drivel.

"Not becoming one of the elect was punishable by death." Stupid;absolutely stupid.

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How can you possibly believe all this bogus material? You can hate on Calvin all you want. But you are not looking at things factually. You imbibe all this false stuff like a thirsty horse drinks too much water without stopping. Make a concerted effort to be honest. Check things out before posting something so trashy. Just because something lines up with your ill-informed views on a given subject --don't just go with the flow. You need to verify. You have not done a lick of research. Truth means little to you, but as a professing Christian it has to.

Have the attitude that the Bereans had. When it comes to Scripture as well as other things. Verify,validate. Do your homework. Don't embarrass yourself as you have done time and time again.
 
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saturneptune

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Those with a bit of Scriptural literacy will immediately recognize that I have been listing the false accusations of Christ by them that were scholastic paragons.

Every accusation of Calvin in this thread is false, but then hatred of the Gospel isn't a fruit of one's learning, but of his character.

But even if the accusations were true, would to God the worst thing that one could say of me (and any of you) is that I burned one who attributed the knowledge of the Trinity to the Devil.

So, this October I will celebrate my betters by making smores over a glowing effigy of Servetus.
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http://www.banneroftruth.org/pages/articles/article_detail.php?457
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Rippon

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An apt description of your character and you ability to discern.


You have not the least intention to tell the truth. You are full of hate. You are in the gall of bitterness;that's for sure.

What I said about the ppsimmons video is true;it is a disgrace for you to refer to it as factual. What an embarrassment your disreard for truth is. You are not honoring Christ in your conduct.
 

saturneptune

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You have not the least intention to tell the truth. You are full of hate. You are in the gall of bitterness;that's for sure.

What I said about the ppsimmons video is true;it is a disgrace for you to refer to it as factual. What an embarrassment your disreard for truth is. You are not honoring Christ in your conduct.
A mirror image of you.
 

Thomas Helwys

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Those with a bit of Scriptural literacy will immediately recognize that I have been listing the false accusations of Christ by them that were scholastic paragons.

Every accusation of Calvin in this thread is false, but then hatred of the Gospel isn't a fruit of one's learning, but of his character.

But even if the accusations were true, would to God the worst thing that one could say of me (and any of you) is that I burned one who attributed the knowledge of the Trinity to the Devil.

So, this October I will celebrate my betters by making smores over a glowing effigy of Servetus.
sterb082.gif


http://www.banneroftruth.org/pages/articles/article_detail.php?457

Show me where Jesus had your attitude. It comes not from Him.
 

Thomas Helwys

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One was an Apostle, another a gifted teacher/expositor of the Bible and chrsitian faith, bit BOTH were murderers and sinners who needed to be saved by same christ, so they are a lot alike!

With one critical difference: Paul did not murder after being converted. Which calls into question Calvin's salvation.
 

saturneptune

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With one critical difference: Paul did not murder after being converted. Which calls into question Calvin's salvation.
I believe I mentioned that in another thread, and it is an excellent point. I feel like the Lone Ranger in this area, as I am in complete agreement with you on the character of John Calvin, but on the doctrines of sovereignty and grace, we have been able to agree to disagree without the back and forth.

I guess different things push each person's button, however, disagreeing about doctrine does not usually push mine. Uplifting a man with no discernable Christian character as the man of the millennium is something that is beyond belief, and that does push mine.
 

Yeshua1

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I believe I mentioned that in another thread, and it is an excellent point. I feel like the Lone Ranger in this area, as I am in complete agreement with you on the character of John Calvin, but on the doctrines of sovereignty and grace, we have been able to agree to disagree without the back and forth.

I guess different things push each person's button, however, disagreeing about doctrine does not usually push mine. Uplifting a man with no discernable Christian character as the man of the millennium is something that is beyond belief, and that does push mine.

Dod calvin have a good grasp though of the bible, and of the doctrines contained in it? Can use his theology/commentaries/ even if do not like him!
 

saturneptune

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Dude, your Christian scholarship is matched only by your spelling. :laugh:

Adj. 1. discernable - perceptible by the senses or intellect; "things happen in the earth and sky with no discernible cause"; "the newspaper reports no discernible progress in the negotiations"; "the skyline is easily discernible even at a distance of several miles"
discernible
Discernible is the more recognized spelling but both are acceptable. Both mean: to recognize or identify as separate and distinct

It can be spelled either way, DA.

You are about as bright as a box of rocks.
 
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Rippon

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I am not going to participate in any more subjects about the man Calvin. It does nothing but harm my inner self to discuss this man. Moving on.

Do what you say you will do. Otherwise your words are meaningless.

This is what glfredick told you on 2/20/2011:

"You really need to read church history and set aside those poisonous web sites that you use to get your information.
Falsehoods are not of God."

I agree with all that he said about you.
 

saturneptune

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Do what you say you will do. Otherwise your words are meaningless.

This is what glfredick told you on 2/20/2011:

"You really need to read church history and set aside those poisonous web sites that you use to get your information.
Falsehoods are not of God."

I agree with all that he said about you.
Just whatever you think..........
 

Thomas Helwys

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I believe I mentioned that in another thread, and it is an excellent point. I feel like the Lone Ranger in this area, as I am in complete agreement with you on the character of John Calvin, but on the doctrines of sovereignty and grace, we have been able to agree to disagree without the back and forth.

I guess different things push each person's button, however, disagreeing about doctrine does not usually push mine. Uplifting a man with no discernable Christian character as the man of the millennium is something that is beyond belief, and that does push mine.

Yes, good points. And I don't see why people can't disagree about doctrine without getting mean and personal.
 

saturneptune

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Adj. 1. discernable - perceptible by the senses or intellect; "things happen in the earth and sky with no discernible cause"; "the newspaper reports no discernible progress in the negotiations"; "the skyline is easily discernible even at a distance of several miles"
discernible
Discernible is the more recognized spelling but both are acceptable. Both mean: to recognize or identify as separate and distinct

It can be spelled either way, DA.

You are about as bright as a box of rocks.
In reference to the abbreviation DA, I wanted to make it clear that stands for distinguished Aaron.
 

saturneptune

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Do what you say you will do. Otherwise your words are meaningless.

Falsehoods are not of God."

I agree with all that he said about you.
Remember, these are your exact words. Here are some exerpts from biblelife.org on Calvin.

Concerning the act that lead to his coming to Geneva to reign:

In November 1552, the Council declared Calvin’s Institutes of the Christian Religion to be a “holy doctrine which no man might speak against.” Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier,

Here are some specific acts of murder and torture (a small sampling compared to his total list of crimes):

as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch. Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec — moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary. Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva. The iron yoke could not be shaken off. In 1555, under Ami Perrin, a revolt was attempted. No blood was shed, but Perrin lost the day, and Calvin’s theocracy triumphed. John Calvin had secured his grip on Geneva by defeating the very man who had invited him there, Ami Perrin, commissioner of Geneva.

Notice this has nothing to do with Michael Servetus.

More of his handy work:

Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be incarcerated twice at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded. Calvin also had thirty-four (34) women burned at the stake after accusing them of being witches who caused a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545. The number of people murdered by John Calvin has been a dispute — not the fact that he murdered them.
 
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