Some Himalayan glaciers actually growing, scientists find

[mandym]

A new study reveals that some Himalayan glaciers in the Karakoram mountain range may actually be getting bigger, according to a study published in the April issue of the journal Nature Geoscience -- a surprising quirk in the planet’s response to a changing climate.

The Karakoram range runs along the India-China-Pakistan border and is home to about half the volume of the Himalayan glaciers, including K2 -- the world's second highest peak. Using computer models to compare the ice volume in satellite photos from 1999 and 2008, the study showed that some glaciers are holding steady and even gaining ice mass.

The new finding appears to align with another startling report published Feb. 9 in the science journal Nature, which found that the Himalayas have barely melted at all in the past 10 years.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012...cientists-find/?test=latestnews#ixzz1sJldaR7v

 

[Crabtownboy]

But elsewhere .............

Glaciers and sea ice around the world are melting at unprecedented rates, but new data indicates that this phenomenon may be lopsided. It seems that some areas of the Himalayan mountain range are melting faster than others, which aren't melting at all, a new study indicates.

Specifically, the Karakoram mountain range is holding steady, and may even be growing in size, the study, published in the April 2012 issue of the journal Nature Geoscience, suggests.

"The rest of the glaciers in the Himalayas are mostly melting, in that they have negative mass balance, here we found that glaciers aren't," study researcher Julie Gardelle, of CNRS-Université Grenoble, France, told LiveScience. "This is an anomalous behavior."

http://news.yahoo.com/lopsided-melting-discovered-along-himalayan-glaciers-150004364.html

By all accounts, the glaciers of Greenland are melting twice as fast as they were five years ago, even as the ice sheets of Antarctica -- the world's largest reservoir of fresh water -- also are shrinking, researchers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and the University of Kansas reported in February.

http://articles.latimes.com/2006/jun/25/science/sci-greenland25

 

[mandym]

The UN's climate science body has admitted that a claim made in its 2007 report - that Himalayan glaciers could melt away by 2035 - was unfounded.

The admission today followed a New Scientist article last week that revealed the source of the claim made in the 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was not peer-reviewed scientific literature – but a media interview with a scientist conducted in 1999. Several senior scientists have now said the claim was unrealistic and that the large Himalayan glaciers could not melt in a few decades.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/20/ipcc-himalayan-glaciers-mistake

 

[mandym]

...Yet, predictions of the glaciers imminent demise may have been premature. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change famously predicted they could disappear as soon as 2035. It turns out that guesstimate was based on misquoting a researcher in a 1999 news article—not a result from any kind of peer-reviewed scientific study.

The incident reflects a breakdown in the IPCC process but it doesn't undercut the reality that glacier loss, particularly in what are technically tropical regions such as the Andes and Himalayas, continues to accelerate in the 21st century. Though they likely won't disappear entirely for centuries, losing the glaciers will eventually be bad news for the billions around the world who rely on meltwater to survive.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/p...=how-fast-are-himalayan-glaciers-mel-10-01-21

 

[mandym]

But elsewhere .............

Which has all been debunked.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Which has all been debunked.

Only in your mind. These were just reported. You look hard and find a report on an anomaly in a very small area and then try to generalize it over the entire earth. Just does not work that way. The general trend over the earth is a melding down of the ice fields and caps.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Ice fields and caps are "melding" all over the Earth ? Wow.

I do have one question. How does melting ice create less fresh water ?

 

[mandym]

Only in your mind.

Uh no, I provided clear evidence that the evidence for the myth has been debunked. The IPCC report was a fraud.

 

[freeatlast]

Only in your mind. These were just reported. You look hard and find a report on an anomaly in a very small area and then try to generalize it over the entire earth. Just does not work that way. The general trend over the earth is a melding down of the ice fields and caps.

I think there is no question that the ice fields are melting. However what is causing it and if it will continue is the real battle. The idea that we can somehow correct, or reverse it by our actions is totally out of touch with reality.

 

[th1bill]

I think there is no question that the ice fields are melting. However what is causing it and if it will continue is the real battle. The idea that we can somehow correct, or reverse it by our actions is totally out of touch with reality.

Yes, man can deny it but that will never change the fact that God is in control!

 

[just-want-peace]

Don't you folks know that GW is only at see(?) level?
That's why the Everest glaciers can grow, while ice "fields" melt??!!??

(I'll bet Crabby will validate this factoid!!??):laugh:

 

[billwald]

So what do mountains near the equator have to do with polar ice caps melting?

 

[freeatlast]

So what do mountains near the equator have to do with polar ice caps melting?

Good question, but Bill do you think that there is a way to reverse the ice caps from melting?

 

[Oldtimer]

Sure, we can if you believe Al Gore and GE, both of whom have deep financial interests in maintaining the theory that man is causing global warming, now climate change, on a massive scale.

When they remove the "offical" reporting stations from heat islands such as the international airport near us, I'll start to consider the possibility man has had some minor impact on the systems that God has put into place.

During the summer, the offical temp at the airport is almost always a few degrees higher than the temp reported from small towns in our area. The more new runways and parking lots they pave, the higher the temp rises over the years.

Set a reporting station in the middle of WalMart parking lot on a summer day. Set another one in the middle of a large open field. Which do you think will register global warming?

 

[billwald]

> but Bill do you think that there is a way to reverse the ice caps from melting?

No, I think we are beyond the tipping point, whatever the cause. So do we simply say, "God's will" or do we try to mitigate the potential losses?

 

[freeatlast]

> but Bill do you think that there is a way to reverse the ice caps from melting?

No, I think we are beyond the tipping point, whatever the cause. So do we simply say, "God's will" or do we try to mitigate the potential losses?

As to God's will I suppose it would depend on ones theology. How do we mitigate the potential losses and what are those losses?